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  • wolftone57
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2008
    • 5861

    Originally posted by aguy
    That's a fair call about derricks but I can't quite agree about lrt. Yes he may not be up to ruck duties but he played well in Adelaide and he always gives 100%. As has been said many times a lot of what he does is not represented in stats.
    True but I think this year he seems to be out of sorts. He doesn't seem to have to rhythm of the game, he always had that. His second efforts are not as good and he seems to have lost a yard. I think probably he, ROK & Shaw have all played one year too many. We should have been looking to replace all three after all the injuries last year and the fact ROK was obviously slowing down. That was obvious in the finals. LRT is playing at about 3/4 LRT and that is probably not enough in my opinion.

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    • Auntie.Gerald
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2009
      • 6483

      i think Marsh if playing HBF could easily make Seniors in a couple of years..........and there is no reason why Rampe could not bit by bit be pushed into run with role in the midfield........look at the Freo midfield for big strong midfielders dominating

      Marsh he has been thrown a massive challenge for developing the engine in the mids - it would be testing his character and cardio

      lets not forget how Bolton and Macca looked just so so in their first 3 or 4 years at the Swans - Kennedy was very ordinary at the Hawks in his 3 or 4 seasons

      Marsh has really only had one pre season and half a season if that due to injury in his first year at the Swans

      too early to call in my opinion
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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      • Auntie.Gerald
        Veterans List
        • Oct 2009
        • 6483

        Harrison drawing Joey comparison - sydneyswans.com.au
        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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        • mcs
          Travelling Swannie!!
          • Jul 2007
          • 8180

          I'm pretty happy with those changes... seem pretty sensible to me, and I'm very happy to see Lloyd get a shot at the big time. He will be a star for us in time I feel!

          Sad to see ROK dropped, but you can't say its not warranted on form
          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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          • goods78
            Warming the Bench
            • Sep 2012
            • 269

            Originally posted by lwjoyner
            Why keep Bo D, he is not up to it. Would have promoted Nankervis for him. .....
            Bo will get thrashed by Freo rucks and be of no help to Pykie. Again the selectors seem to be found wanting.
            The only reason I can think of is insurance if Pyke is not 100% fit. If Pyke is carrying something and goes down, could you imagine a LRT / Grundy ruck combo v Freo?

            Derrickx is a big lad, and hopefully he can crash in to the opposing ruckman. I doubt he will get many (any) taps, but hopefully he can reduce the tap accuracy of his opponent.

            When he goes forward, hopefully he can continue to crash packs. BJ got a number of goals from front and centre's last year and hopefully he can get a few on the weekend.

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            • goods78
              Warming the Bench
              • Sep 2012
              • 269

              Originally posted by Flying South
              When are we going to accept that these days LRT brings nothing to the rucking table.
              I don't think LRT is our second best ruckman, but I don't blame the coach for picking an experienced player that can provide a contest in the forward line or back line or in the ruck.

              The way we are playing at the moment, the coaches need some flexibility (Grundy playing forward last week) when things are not working. With Goodes out, LRT is the most experienced flexible player in the team.

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              • Auntie.Gerald
                Veterans List
                • Oct 2009
                • 6483

                my guess is that Lloyd will get more game time then BJ

                BJ Sub

                If Lloyd has a solid game this week an hannes or Jetta doesnt ........hhhhmmmm next weeks teams could be interesting
                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                • goods78
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 269

                  Originally posted by R-1
                  ?Tommy Mitchell?s had a crook ankle for a couple of weeks, so he goes out of the team,? Longmire said.

                  It's the kid's third season on the list. Second playing actual footy. And we rate him highly enough to risk him injured? Wow.

                  Edit: and they've played Rohan knowing he might not be able to run out games. Jeez.
                  I pegged Tom as being injured a few weeks ago - I think everyone rates him extremely high. If the injury was that bad, they would be resting him completely without a game in the reserves. I think they will give him a light run, maybe half a game - similar to Tippett.

                  Rohan has been sub last two games, and subbed the one before so the question on his fitness is warranted. Give him a full game in the reserves and see how he goes.

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                  • ernie koala
                    Senior Player
                    • May 2007
                    • 3251

                    I'm happy to see Jack getting another go, but find it odd that he gets a game ahead of Towers, given Towers has been so close to selection, and Jack appears to have done little in the 2's this year.

                    This selection will probably be sub.

                    Given Horses reverence of Lloyds running and endurance, surely he won't be the sub??? Or will irony strike.

                    I also think playing Derrickx, against this lot, is a waste of time...He won't handle the pressure.

                    Would of loved to see Membrey get a run, just for something new, something less predictable, another possible avenue to goal. He could of been our version of Chris Mayne.

                    Regardless of selections, the 2 main plusses are....It's going to be dry, and we'll be rank underdogs....I'm feeling more comfortable already.

                    Anyway, what really matters is a full on, nothing to loose, run yourself into the ground, fight to the death, attitude....for 4 quarters.
                    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                    • goods78
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 269

                      Assuming Lloyd is not sub, what role does everyone think he will play on the weekend?

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                      • Auntie.Gerald
                        Veterans List
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6483

                        Lloyd can play outside or inside but my guess is that he may have a run with role
                        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                        • Doctor
                          Bay 29
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 2757

                          Based on who has been omitted, I would think Lloyd will start and BJ will be the sub.

                          Interesting how little comment (ie none) there has been on ROK's omission. IMO this is a more significant dropping than the one he received prior to Rd 1, as it suggests that he hasn't worked his way back into sufficient form to warrant inclusion. It's probably the right call but it's sad nonetheless.
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                          • Ludwig
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9359

                            Originally posted by Doctor
                            Based on who has been omitted, I would think Lloyd will start and BJ will be the sub.

                            Interesting how little comment (ie none) there has been on ROK's omission. IMO this is a more significant dropping than the one he received prior to Rd 1, as it suggests that he hasn't worked his way back into sufficient form to warrant inclusion. It's probably the right call but it's sad nonetheless.
                            Horse was really uneasy talking about his omission. But it really was forced. It's a big fall from grace.

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                            • Auntie.Gerald
                              Veterans List
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6483

                              against a Sewell, Lewis, Hodge etc ROK in 2012 was a great matchup and may have been in rd 1 2014 if we played the hawks ???

                              2013 he still appeared strong until the last 6 or so games where he lost in some of his matchups to spread or keep super tight to his opponent

                              a few of us argued that he was under pressure for 2014 given matchups and given his leg speed dropping significantly in the NAB cup games

                              long season ahead though and no reason why some extra sprint training couldnt help to find that extra yard in pace
                              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                              • goods78
                                Warming the Bench
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 269

                                Originally posted by Doctor
                                .....Interesting how little comment (ie none) there has been on ROK's omission. IMO this is a more significant dropping than the one he received prior to Rd 1, as it suggests that he hasn't worked his way back into sufficient form to warrant inclusion. It's probably the right call but it's sad nonetheless.
                                ROK dodged a bullet when Jack pulled out of the GSW game. That said to me, against fast moving teams he was not going to get a game anymore.

                                The match last week was built for him. Lot's of hard contested ball in the middle - yet he was not put on the ball for all of the game. When he was there, he was not effective.

                                Barring injuries, I can't see him getting back in.

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