Round 7 Changes V Brisbane

[DamY]

Nank is doing well but had fitness issues he had to address when first interviewed by the Swans. Obviously he's worked on it but I don't think it is sufficient for seniors yet. I agree some changes are required but not wholesale ones. If Reid and Tip come in, two forwards would have to go out unless Reid goes in defence. Tip or Goodesy would be a good balance for Buddy. Reid might come in for LRT if they see him as a swing man. I really hope Lloyd holds his spot because he has been really good and is a favourite of mine. Gazza needs time to work through his injury issues so I think we should hold off on him for now. If Mitchell comes in, Lloyd has to stay because we lose too much leg speed. Plus where is Harry playing these days?! I don't know if he's forward or back

[Flying South]

I was talking to a guy at work who is a die hard Swans supporter, who watches Reserves Games. He expressed the opinion that Toby N is too raw for senior football and is not a viable alternative to Tom D at this time.

Does anyone have any opinions on this view?

What does too raw mean exactly??? He is a big boy. It's not like he is a skinny kid that needs to mature into a man's body. Surely he can duplicate what derickx is producing. Bet he would take a few more marks.

[Ludwig]

If Tippett has been running, it must not be painful breathing, which means his crack in the rib is not very serious and he should be okay to play. Imagine he will be padded up like KJ.

If Tippett comes in, there is no point in having Derickx play, since Pyke will not be needed for forward line structure and can do the bulk of the ruck work. He will only have Trent West to go up against anyway.

I would play all the forwards if they are fit enough as it would be great to have a game to get them acquainted with each other before we play Hawthorn. There's no reserves game anyway to gain match fitness.

If all the forwards can play, we should drop TD and LRT. Not sure what we will do if we want to play Mitchell, because unless there is another injury concern (Macca is the prime candidate), it would seem Lloyd we be the next one out. I would like Lloyd get another game before Tommy Walsh comes off the LTIL, which will probably be after this week. Also will be difficult to pick the sub this week.

[stellation]

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[stellation]

If Tippett has been running, it must not be painful breathing, which means his crack in the rib is not very serious and he should be okay to play. Imagine he will be padded up like KJ.

If Tippett comes in, there is no point in having Derickx play, since Pyke will not be needed for forward line structure and can do the bulk of the ruck work. He will only have Trent West to go up against anyway.

I would play all the forwards if they are fit enough as it would be great to have a game to get them acquainted with each other before we play Hawthorn. There's no reserves game anyway to gain match fitness.

If all the forwards can play, we should drop TD and LRT. Not sure what we will do if we want to play Mitchell, because unless there is another injury concern (Macca is the prime candidate), it would seem Lloyd we be the next one out. I would like Lloyd get another game before Tommy Walsh comes off the LTIL, which will probably be after this week. Also will be difficult to pick the sub this week.

Who would backup Pyke in the ruck if both LRT and TD came out? Surely they wouldn't want to throw Tippett into the middle coming off sore ribs and little match conditioning, even if just for 5 minutes a quarter?

[aguy]

If Tippett has been running, it must not be painful breathing, which means his crack in the rib is not very serious and he should be okay to play. Imagine he will be padded up like KJ.

If Tippett comes in, there is no point in having Derickx play, since Pyke will not be needed for forward line structure and can do the bulk of the ruck work. He will only have Trent West to go up against anyway.

I would play all the forwards if they are fit enough as it would be great to have a game to get them acquainted with each other before we play Hawthorn. There's no reserves game anyway to gain match fitness.

If all the forwards can play, we should drop TD and LRT. Not sure what we will do if we want to play Mitchell, because unless there is another injury concern (Macca is the prime candidate), it would seem Lloyd we be the next one out. I would like Lloyd get another game before Tommy Walsh comes off the LTIL, which will probably be after this week. Also will be difficult to pick the sub this week.

I think they would drop
Laidler and then play LRT as a defender. Not sure who makes way for Mitchell as I have likes what I've seen of Lloyd too. They needed to use him more on the weekend.

[Ludwig]

Who would backup Pyke in the ruck if both LRT and TD came out? Surely they wouldn't want to throw Tippett into the middle coming off sore ribs and little match conditioning, even if just for 5 minutes a quarter?

It doesn't matter who plays backup ruck. Anyone who can cause a modicum of distraction is enough. Whatever we lose by not having a 20 minute ruckman who specialises in hitouts to disadvantage will be made up by having another 'player' running around. The way I look at it, I would rather have Tom Mitchell instead of TD because I think the benefits offset whatever TD can give us.

Teams have learned to play against Sandilands, knowing they will lose nearly all the taps. Nonetheless, when you plan for it you can still win the clearances and find solutions to offset a size disadvantage in the ruck. It's something we need to learn, because we are not a strong rucking team without Mummy. But it doesn't mean that we can be a good stoppage team; just need to organise things differently, and use the extra 'runner' that playing 1 ruckman offers.

This is more or less Leigh Mathews' take on the ruck situation. It's a bit controversial, but I am in his camp on this one.

[Matt80]

What does too raw mean exactly??? He is a big boy. It's not like he is a skinny kid that needs to mature into a man's body. Surely he can duplicate what derickx is producing. Bet he would take a few more marks.

The guy thought it would be a massive step up for Toby N, to go from rucking in the NAFL to the AFL. By raw be probably meant experience as Toby is only 19!

[Go Swannies]

Who would backup Pyke in the ruck if both LRT and TD came out? Surely they wouldn't want to throw Tippett into the middle coming off sore ribs and little match conditioning, even if just for 5 minutes a quarter?

I'd give Ben McGlynn a run as ruck - that's basically the same as playing a normal ruckman against Sandilands.

[ScottH]

Franklin, Tippett, Goodes and Reid in the F50??

Could happen!!
Key quartet possible to face Lions - sydneyswans.com.au

[O'Reilly Boy]

Franklin, Tippett, Goodes and Reid in the F50??

Could happen!!
Key quartet possible to face Lions - sydneyswans.com.au

Don't want them all in the F50. I want Buddy and Reid leading up to the wings, dragging defenders out of the F50, and leaving KT in one-on-ones?ideally against the number 2 or 3 defender (!)?closer to the goal square. Number 37, as far as I'm concerned, can do whatever he wants, although I do like it when he sets himself up behind stoppages in the attacking half of the ground, rather than working as a forward target. And we need to go one on one when the opposition tries to set up the loose behind the ball to make sure there is space for Tippett to lead to. Can't wait.

[Ludwig]

Reid, AG and Buddy can all play like midfielders, so being tall is not a problem, but rather an asset. What's great about having Tippett is that we can still have a monster target up forward while forcing their other key defenders to areas that they would feel less comfortable by having to cover the other 3.

In theory, it should work. In practice .......................

[wolftone57]

doubt anything is wrong with kieran, probs just BT making something out of nothing. same as the supposed jetta injury, just happened to be near buddy when he came off and so people made an issue out of it when it wasnt

Kizza had padding on his ribs. He answered questions on the padding on Sunday's 'Before The Game'. I would not be surprised to see him rested when we have Tom Mitchell to come back and Lloyd has equipped himself so well. Could have had plenty of it if it weren't for team-mates going dibs with each other (yes I am talking about you Mal, Macca, shaw & Grundy).

So there could be a few players rested to get over sore areas. Kizza, Jetts, Macca & Buddy all have niggles that may be better with a rest.

We have a few we could bring in who all have seniors experience. Mitchell, ROK, Biggs (can also play wing as well as HB), Rohan, oh I forgot Tippett and Sammy. Nanka might be a player in the mid season to give a birth to get some experience.
Towers is still playing well in the Twos and so is Membrey. So we have talent in droves just a matter of timing as to when to blood them. I think it would be a mistake not to blood some more players this year and get some game time into the likes of Biggs. Aliir as well down the track. Zac Jones is just starting to hit his straps but not ready for the big time yet. Nice touch giving the lad a sniff though.

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Reid needs a game in the reserves IMO. Tippett will probably not be ready. I never understand why there are calls for mass changes after we win. I know it was scrappy at times but it was still a win against a team whose entire game plan was to play for a nil all draw.

Doctor people are just saying we may have some niggling injuries that would be better fixed before the Hawks match. Don't you agree that a fully fit team playing Hawks would be good? In that case rest a few players. They are not dropped just rested.

[wolftone57]

Resting players is for teams late in the season playing in the finals. We're nowhere that.

Resting injured players just before a huge game like the Hawks is very normal. I personally would not like to see Buddy, Macca, Kizza or Jetts carrying injuries into the Hawks match. We will be destroyed and they can only get even more injured under the type of pressure Hawks will deliver.

[billyboob]

Doctor people are just saying we may have some niggling injuries that would be better fixed before the Hawks match. Don't you agree that a fully fit team playing Hawks would be good? In that case rest a few players. They are not dropped just rested.

It would be a disaster to lose against Brisbane on the assumption we not only have the depth to cover for any outs to be rested but also the form to continue on and beat the Hawks.