Josh Kennedy. Is he the best ever midfielder we've had?

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  • Doctor
    Bay 29
    • Sep 2003
    • 2757

    #46
    Originally posted by aardvark
    Get back to me when he's won 3 Brownlows. Bob Skilton is still the best.
    I know you included a wink but Doctor J's point is still salient. No-one will win a stack of Brownlows in the Gary Ablett era. Is Kennedy our best ever? Personally I think it's too early to say but if he keeps his current level of performance going for years to come it's going to be hard to argue with. In some ways he has dragged us back into this season and forced the rest of the team to come with him.

    As an aside I don't think it matters that Ablett is at the Gold Coast. He is the best player of this generation by a mile and is the best I have ever seen. I respectfully acknowledge that others may have a wider talent pool to draw from than me in this area however.
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    • Doctor
      Bay 29
      • Sep 2003
      • 2757

      #47
      Originally posted by ScottH
      39 (Sam Grimley),
      46 (Benjamin Stratton)
      70 (Matthew Suckling)

      A fair trade for us!!
      Fair for us but the Hawks have done far better than expected out of those picks too. A win for both clubs.
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      • Bloods05
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2008
        • 1641

        #48
        Originally posted by Doctor
        No-one will win a stack of Brownlows in the Gary Ablett era.
        Except Gary Ablett.

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        • liz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16770

          #49
          Originally posted by ScottH
          39 (Sam Grimley),
          46 (Benjamin Stratton)
          70 (Matthew Suckling)

          A fair trade for us!!
          Suckling's not really relevant to assessing the trade. He was a rookie upgrade so the Hawks could have used any pick. If they hadn't got pick 70, they would just have used 77, 95 or 1356 - whichever the next pick was they already had.

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          • ugg
            Can you feel it?
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 15970

            #50
            I've always been in two minds about assessing a trade based on who the club selects with the pick. If the Hawks had selected Neville Nobody with 46 instead of Ben Stratton does that actually change how well we did out of that trade?
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            • Plugger46
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2003
              • 3674

              #51
              Originally posted by ugg
              I've always been in two minds about assessing a trade based on who the club selects with the pick. If the Hawks had selected Neville Nobody with 46 instead of Ben Stratton does that actually change how well we did out of that trade?
              Not in my opinion - as it's highly unlikely that we would've selected the same player.
              Bloods

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              • Reggi
                On the Rookie List
                • Jan 2003
                • 2718

                #52
                Originally posted by ugg
                I've always been in two minds about assessing a trade based on who the club selects with the pick. If the Hawks had selected Neville Nobody with 46 instead of Ben Stratton does that actually change how well we did out of that trade?
                I think Neville Noboby is an upgrade on Stratton
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                • aardvark
                  Veterans List
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 5685

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Reggi
                  I think Neville Noboby is an upgrade on Stratton
                  FYI Nev is a very good musician and has no interest in playing AFL.

                  Neville Nobody

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                  • dimelb
                    pr. dim-melb; m not f
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 6889

                    #54
                    Originally posted by aardvark
                    FYI Nev is a very good musician and has no interest in playing AFL.

                    Neville Nobody
                    Nice one! As an experienced front man he could play forward and have the commentators calling him Neville Jetta.
                    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                    • Reggi
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2718

                      #55
                      Originally posted by aardvark
                      FYI Nev is a very good musician and has no interest in playing AFL.

                      Neville Nobody
                      Big step up,on Stratton
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                      • Matt80
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 1802

                        #56
                        Does anyone think that the Hawks will try and bring Kennedy home in the next couple of seasons? With Sam Mitchell, Luke Hodge, Brad Sewell and Shaun Burgoine getting toward the end of their careers, the Hawks may be looking for inside midfielders.

                        I don't want this to happen, but do the Swans need to be prepared for this approach?

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                        • tasmania60
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 276

                          #57
                          Totally agree , going to play more games than williams bedford ???

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                          • Meg
                            Go Swannies!
                            Site Admin
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 4828

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Matt80
                            Does anyone think that the Hawks will try and bring Kennedy home in the next couple of seasons? With Sam Mitchell, Luke Hodge, Brad Sewell and Shaun Burgoine getting toward the end of their careers, the Hawks may be looking for inside midfielders.

                            I don't want this to happen, but do the Swans need to be prepared for this approach?
                            Kennedy signed a new four year contract with us last year that will take him through to the end of 2017. He will then be 29. If he stays healthy he is likely to be capable of several more high quality seasons after that. So the 'going home' factor might then become an issue. But we don't have to worry for some time yet (thank goodness).

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                            • Matt80
                              Suspended by the MRP
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 1802

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Meg
                              Kennedy signed a new four year contract with us last year that will take him through to the end of 2017. He will then be 29. If he stays healthy he is likely to be capable of several more high quality seasons after that. So the 'going home' factor might then become an issue. But we don't have to worry for some time yet (thank goodness).
                              The concern may be if he comes to the club at the end of 2015 and says that Clarkson has but a huge offer through to him and my father and grandfather want me to return to the Hawks. We can reject the trade but if the Hawks offer a mega deal at the trade table ie two first round picks then we may have to seriously consider it. It's not in anyone's interest to keep players who want to leave.

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                              • Meg
                                Go Swannies!
                                Site Admin
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 4828

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Matt80
                                It's not in anyone's interest to keep players who want to leave.
                                That's true. But he was pretty happy when he signed the new contract. So let's hope that doesn't change.

                                "I will be forever grateful to the Swans for this opportunity," Kennedy told The Daily Telegraph.

                                "When I came here four years ago to think that I would be in the position that I'm in now signing another four-year deal is an amazing feeling."

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