COLA to be replaced by rent subsidy

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  • crackedactor
    Regular in the Side
    • May 2012
    • 919

    #61
    Originally posted by Doctor J.
    You could add Maurice Rioli and Tim Barling. In fact we were the first club to lose players due to salary cap pressure
    If you wanted to be pedantic, you could also add Wayne carey to the list.

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    • DamY
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2011
      • 1479

      #62
      Jed Lamb's been dropped by GWS for this week's game.

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      • DeadlyAkkuret
        Veterans List
        • Oct 2006
        • 4547

        #63
        Everitt the only one we lost who is showing any consistency, and he's no superstar.

        Not the nightmare offseason that some thought it was.

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        • Auntie.Gerald
          Veterans List
          • Oct 2009
          • 6474

          #64
          White hasnt been to bad this year ???
          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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          • Reggi
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2003
            • 2718

            #65
            Originally posted by crackedactor
            If you wanted to be pedantic, you could also add Wayne carey to the list.
            Wasn't salary cap it was needing money and it was just $10k
            You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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            • 31 hard at it
              Regular in the Side
              • Mar 2008
              • 550

              #66
              Originally posted by Nico
              Jockeys can claim Foxtel as a business expense.
              Off topic but no one can claim Foxtel as a business expense in full - Private expense

              A jockey might be able to claim just the additional cost of the Racing stations package.
              Can't claim anything for basic service.

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              • cartman48
                Warming the Bench
                • Aug 2006
                • 129

                #67
                Originally posted by Matt80
                15k is a good subsidy for rent. I?ll take it.

                Maybe lower paid players need to set up shop in less expensive Neighbourhoods.
                They can live in Dulwich Hill. Get the Tram to Central and then a Buss from Central to Moore Park.

                Simple as that!
                Spot on.... This is the best result to keep all sides of the argument happy, will also mean that from 2017 supporters of other clubs (myself included) will rank the Swans on par with other teams and in turn earn much more respect for there achievements (Which do date have only a little to do with the extra cash and more to do with recycling players better than any other club as well as the ability to find Gems late in drafts - Luke Parker a prime example)
                Carn the Southern Power.....

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                • cartman48
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 129

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Reggi
                  Fact remains we have lost more players to salary cap pressure than any other club and I expect it To return

                  Darren Gaspar
                  Adam hueskes
                  Shannon grant
                  Anthony rocca
                  Simon Garlick
                  ( Ross Lyon and tony mcguiness)
                  Paul Licuria
                  Jed lamb
                  Andrews Everitt
                  Adam Schneider
                  Sean dempster
                  Jesse white
                  Shane Mumford

                  To name but some
                  ???? Don't let fact guide a post....
                  Hueskes was delisted for bad behaviour and all of the Players you lost last year are due to signing the two best Key Forward in the league to 20% of your cap for long periods.
                  Shannon Grant and Anthony Rocca sighted homesickness as there reasons for leaving.

                  Salary Cap Squeeze affects all clubs - Swans have benefitted more than been affected, you have Gained in your current best 22 Ben McGlynn, Josh Kennedy, Ted Richards, Jeremy Laidler and Rhyce Shaw from clubs that couldn't afford to keep these guns.
                  Carn the Southern Power.....

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                  • Doctor J.
                    Senior Player
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 1310

                    #69
                    Originally posted by cartman48
                    ???? Don't let fact guide a post....
                    Hueskes was delisted for bad behaviour and all of the Players you lost last year are due to signing the two best Key Forward in the league to 20% of your cap for long periods.
                    Shannon Grant and Anthony Rocca sighted homesickness as there reasons for leaving.

                    Salary Cap Squeeze affects all clubs - Swans have benefitted more than been affected, you have Gained in your current best 22 Ben McGlynn, Josh Kennedy, Ted Richards, Jeremy Laidler and Rhyce Shaw from clubs that couldn't afford to keep these guns.
                    We signed Tippett to a 2 year deal with a further option of 2 years, hardly long term. Franklin is getting $700k in Y1 and $800k in Y2. Hardly big bucks by todays standards. Others in the club were signed on to extended contracts with salary increases. COnsequence of trying to keep a successful club successful.

                    Nevertheless, players such as Mumford, White, Lamb and Everitt were all squeezed out of the club due to salary cap pressure, thats how it works. You can't keep them all.

                    And best you not let facts get in the way of your post. The fact is Ben McGlynn, Josh Kennedy, Ted Richards, Jeremy Laidler and Rhyce Shaw all left their clubs due to lack of opportunity, not due to wanting more money. They might be guns now (jury is still out on Laidler) but were certainly not at the time they came to Sydney.

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                    • Auntie.Gerald
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6474

                      #70
                      i distinctly remember Swans Management saying we dont use 5 to 8% of the cap anyway in years gone past because we could NOT afford to financially

                      but if we could have afforded to financially that would have been two significant extra players in years gone past
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • erica
                        Happy and I know it
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1247

                        #71
                        Here we go again: this time it's the Bulldogs' President.
                        No Cookies | Herald Sun
                        All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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                        • Reggi
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2718

                          #72
                          Originally posted by cartman48
                          ???? Don't let fact guide a post....
                          Hueskes was delisted for bad behaviour and all of the Players you lost last year are due to signing the two best Key Forward in the league to 20% of your cap for long periods.
                          Shannon Grant and Anthony Rocca sighted homesickness as there reasons for leaving.

                          Salary Cap Squeeze affects all clubs - Swans have benefitted more than been affected, you have Gained in your current best 22 Ben McGlynn, Josh Kennedy, Ted Richards, Jeremy Laidler and Rhyce Shaw from clubs that couldn't afford to keep these guns.
                          Rubbish. None of what you said was is true. Heuskes for starters was picked up by Port Adelaide under their ability to sign uncontracted players he was never delisted

                          Getting into young Sydney players with more money offers was a favourite sport for Melbourne clubs
                          Last edited by Reggi; 31 May 2014, 08:52 AM.
                          You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                          • Ludwig
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9359

                            #73
                            You can bet that if we win the premiership it will be labelled 'tainted' because the COLA. That's all we will hear about until the end of the season. The only thing than can save us is ASADA.

                            GC and GWS will be in the sights of the Melbourne establishment soon enough. They just want to return to the VFL days.

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                            • mcs
                              Travelling Swannie!!
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 8161

                              #74
                              Originally posted by cartman48
                              ???? Don't let fact guide a post....
                              Hueskes was delisted for bad behaviour and all of the Players you lost last year are due to signing the two best Key Forward in the league to 20% of your cap for long periods.
                              Shannon Grant and Anthony Rocca sighted homesickness as there reasons for leaving.

                              Salary Cap Squeeze affects all clubs - Swans have benefitted more than been affected, you have Gained in your current best 22 Ben McGlynn, Josh Kennedy, Ted Richards, Jeremy Laidler and Rhyce Shaw from clubs that couldn't afford to keep these guns.

                              Oh come on, pull the other one with those examples. Laidler couldn't get a game at Carlton (jury is still out at the Swans). Teddy couldn't get a game at the Bombers, Rhyce Shaw was on the nose at Collingwood, Kennedy was stuck in a midfield traffic jam at the Hawks, and McGlynn was fringe 22.

                              When they were traded, none could hardly be called 'guns', and really with the exception of Kennedy (who most thought would be a great player at Hawthorn), everyone else has been improved substantially whilst at the Swans. The Swans have shown themselves to be right up there in terms of finding players not getting opportunities at other clubs and turning them into high quality players. Its only now, that the swans have gone and bought a couple of big names (which to me suggests astute cap management more than rorting 'cola'), that anyone is whining about it. We wouldn't be hearing a peep about the Swans buying Tippett or Buddy if we were a mid-table, mediocre team.

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                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              You can bet that if we win the premiership it will be labelled 'tainted' because the COLA. That's all we will hear about until the end of the season. The only thing than can save us is ASADA.

                              GC and GWS will be in the sights of the Melbourne establishment soon enough. They just want to return to the VFL days.
                              It happens whenever interstate teams start getting the upper hand, which is beginning to happen again. You'd think there is a decent chance that 3 of the top 4 this year will be interstate teams, and next year with Gold Coast improving even more it could be that its all interstate teams in the top 4 (although I wonder if Freo might start to drop off). It was the same old whines when it was interstate teams dominating in 2005-06 period.
                              "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                              • Mel_C
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 4470

                                #75
                                I got so mad when I saw this article on the back of the Herald Sun. I thought here we go again!
                                The nerve of Gordon to whinge when the bulldogs are one of the clubs receiving money from the afl for equalisation.

                                One pleasing part is that some of the comments I read were supportive of the swans and they weren't from swans supporters.

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