COLA to be replaced by rent subsidy

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  • Matt80
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Sep 2013
    • 1802

    I still don't understand why paying 100% of the cap equals up the competition. How is it equal if the highest performing list in the competition pays the same as the lowest performing list in the competition. If the highest and lowest performing lists turn over 9-10 players on the list a year they still will have roughly the same money to spend on free agents, depending on who leaves and what they were on. I favour a system where you can pay down to 80% of your cap on a lowly developing list and use the extra 20% room the next year to retain your better players and launch a free agent assault.

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    • CJK
      Human
      • Apr 2006
      • 2170

      Meh, could be worse.

      I was half expecting - no clubs outside Victoria permitted to participate in finals.
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      • Meg
        Go Swannies!
        Site Admin
        • Aug 2011
        • 4828

        Originally posted by Reggi
        Yep GWS screwed themselves. It is an accomodation allowance not rental
        Yes good point. And appropriate.

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        • Meg
          Go Swannies!
          Site Admin
          • Aug 2011
          • 4828

          Still waiting for accompanying AFL statement emphasising that COLA had been used appropriately and strictly as intended by the Swans over the years of its existence. Waiting, waiting .......

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          • Melbourne_Blood
            Senior Player
            • May 2010
            • 3312

            Originally posted by Meg
            Still waiting for accompanying AFL statement emphasising that COLA had been used appropriately and strictly as intended by the Swans over the years of its existence. Waiting, waiting .......
            Yes, especially after Ireland called them out on it. Why don't they come out and out it to bed ? Weak dogs

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            • Auntie.Gerald
              Veterans List
              • Oct 2009
              • 6480

              Time to start up South Melbourne Academy in the heart of Melbourne city to be run in conjunction with the Sydney Swans Academy

              This would only be fair to recognise both Sydney Swans and South Melbourne roots
              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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              • Ludwig
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                Originally posted by Matt80
                I still don't understand why paying 100% of the cap equals up the competition. How is it equal if the highest performing list in the competition pays the same as the lowest performing list in the competition. If the highest and lowest performing lists turn over 9-10 players on the list a year they still will have roughly the same money to spend on free agents, depending on who leaves and what they were on. I favour a system where you can pay down to 80% of your cap on a lowly developing list and use the extra 20% room the next year to retain your better players and launch a free agent assault.
                That's the way I see it too. I like your suggestion.

                If you paying a list of crap (read mediocre) players the same a strong list then you are pricing those players out of the market for other clubs, and locking up cap that could be use to recruit or retain better players. So it actually entrenches the status quo rather than leads to greater equalisation.

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                • Reggi
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2718

                  Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                  Yes, especially after Ireland called them out on it. Why don't they come out and out it to bed ? Weak dogs
                  Demetriou said it on 3aw Monday night. Said uncategorically that the 9.8% had been spread across our list. Don't think he needs to say more

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                  Originally posted by Ludwig
                  That's the way I see it too. I like your suggestion.

                  If you paying a list of crap (read mediocre) players the same a strong list then you are pricing those players out of the market for other clubs, and locking up cap that could be use to recruit or retain better players. So it actually entrenches the status quo rather than leads to greater equalisation.
                  AFLPA. Are dead against it
                  You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    Originally posted by Reggi

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                    AFLPA. Are dead against it
                    I'm not surprised! There job is to get the most for the players, not equalising the competition.

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                    • Melbourne_Blood
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2010
                      • 3312

                      Originally posted by Reggi
                      Demetriou said it on 3aw Monday night. Said uncategorically that the 9.8% had been spread across our list. Don't think he needs to say more

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                      AFLPA. Are dead against it
                      So everyone listening to 3aw on Monday night heard it then ? Didn't see it any of the papers, on the tv news or on the afl website. I want a big, bold statement that gets across to the masses, not a mention on a Monday night am radio station from the departing CEO. Put it to bed.

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                      • Meg
                        Go Swannies!
                        Site Admin
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 4828

                        Originally posted by Reggi
                        Demetriou said it on 3aw Monday night. Said uncategorically that the 9.8% had been spread across our list. Don't think he needs to say more

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                        First I knew of that, certainly didn't get the same publicity as the rants saying Swans were abusing COLA. And it's not in writing.

                        The written statement of changes, without explanation, leaves the implication that:
                        1. Swans misused COLA
                        2. Swans can't be trusted to pay accommodation subsidy (so AFL will pay it directly).

                        I agree with changes but they should have been explained and put in context in the written statement. Every time we win a match COLA is going to be raised if this week is a predictor.

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                        • Reggi
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2718

                          AFL chief Andrew Demetriou predicts grand final clash | 3AW Sports Today

                          There is a link to the discussion here
                          You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                          • Matt80
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 1802

                            Originally posted by Reggi
                            Demetriou said it on 3aw Monday night. Said uncategorically that the 9.8% had been spread across our list. Don't think he needs to say more

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                            AFLPA. Are dead against it
                            The AFLPA has to see the problem of paying a Daniel Rich of the Lions more that Josh Kennedy of the Swans because the Lions have a weak list and 100% of the cap needs to be payed.

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                            • Meg
                              Go Swannies!
                              Site Admin
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 4828

                              Thanks Reggi interesting. I still thought he was pretty lukewarm in his support though.

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                              • Reggi
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 2718

                                Originally posted by Meg
                                Thanks Reggi interesting. I still thought he was pretty lukewarm in his support though.
                                I think diplomatic. He cannot be too partisan
                                You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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