Changes for Round 15 - GWS

[Ludwig]

Another NEAFL player of the week and another 5 goals for Tim Membrey. What more does he have to do to get a run in the top grade.

64 possessions; make that 65, 64 is not enough.

[Matt80]

64 possessions; make that 65, 64 is not enough.

Balance will be a big factor. If Franklin, Tippett, Reid, and Goodes play then there is no room for Membrey. You don?t need five key forward types.

Even if Reid plays back for a period you still have Tippett, Franklin and Goodes in the forward line, which is still very formidable.

Whether Membrey stays on depends on how the Swans coaching staff rate him. If the coaching staff encourages him and says openly to him that we see you having a big impact at this club in 2015, 2016, then he is more likely to stay. If he likes Sydney life, then he also be more likely to stay.

If he can develop some midfield capability, modelling himself on Josh Kennedy, then we will have a very formidable player.

[Melb Blood Bro]

Balance will be a big factor. If Franklin, Tippett, Reid, and Goodes play then there is no room for Membrey. You don?t need five key forward types.

Even if Reid plays back for a period you still have Tippett, Franklin and Goodes in the forward line, which is still very formidable.

Whether Membrey stays on depends on how the Swans coaching staff rate him. If the coaching staff encourages him and says openly to him that we see you having a big impact at this club in 2015, 2016, then he is more likely to stay. If he likes Sydney life, then he also be more likely to stay.

If he can develop some midfield capability, modelling himself on Josh Kennedy, then we will have a very formidable player.

Unfortunately, I don't think he will ever be a midfielder. He just doesn't have the aerobic capacity. He is improving but only enough to make him a good forward.

[tasmania60]

Sure about derickx s think he rucked better than Pike try Nankevis looks good , Mc Glynn looks good ?

[wolftone57]

I'm a bit peeved with the people who want to axe 'Big' Tommy Derrickx. I wasn't a fan at all but I think he has come in and done the job. Pykie was bloody dreadful last week. Just for turning his back on the play he should get dropped in my opinion. He was the weakest link against Richmond. Slow, out of form, misreading the ball. I would give him a few weeks in the Twos to get some form back. Derrickx is doing the job nicely and had some really good moments on the weekend.

We don't need two rucks against mob and I would be very surprised if we included another monster like Toby. I think Brandon Jack was extremely wasteful last week. He got plenty of it but most of his disposals were very poor. I have just finished watching the game again, not a pleasant experience. Zac Jones was very good replacing Rhyce.

In; (Out of) Tippett, McGlinn, Membrey & Biggs

Out; Pyke, B.Jack & Shaw

[wolftone57]

Balance will be a big factor. If Franklin, Tippett, Reid, and Goodes play then there is no room for Membrey. You don?t need five key forward types.

Even if Reid plays back for a period you still have Tippett, Franklin and Goodes in the forward line, which is still very formidable.

Whether Membrey stays on depends on how the Swans coaching staff rate him. If the coaching staff encourages him and says openly to him that we see you having a big impact at this club in 2015, 2016, then he is more likely to stay. If he likes Sydney life, then he also be more likely to stay.

If he can develop some midfield capability, modelling himself on Josh Kennedy, then we will have a very formidable player.

I would play Membrey as sub and sub out one of the forwards in the last half. There is no reason the sub can't be used in this manner. what is more it gives the forward line the extra advantage of not being so predictable. Membrey is a different player to all our forwards but the closest is Goodes. He can do some pretty wonderful things with the ball and his goal kicking is tops. I think this could be a week to give the lad a go. He also hunts the man with the ball and his tackling is really good.

GWS did not win against us earlier in the season because they were lightning fast but because we allowed ourselves to get opened up. This wasn't due to speed but due to us allowing them a free man in defence. The mids were also very lazy that day and our centre bounce set ups were @@@@e. I don't think we will make the same mistakes again.

[Melb Blood Bro]

I would play Membrey as sub and sub out one of the forwards in the last half. There is no reason the sub can't be used in this manner. what is more it gives the forward line the extra advantage of not being so predictable. Membrey is a different player to all our forwards but the closest is Goodes. He can do some pretty wonderful things with the ball and his goal kicking is tops. I think this could be a week to give the lad a go. He also hunts the man with the ball and his tackling is really good.

GWS did not win against us earlier in the season because they were lightning fast but because we allowed ourselves to get opened up. This wasn't due to speed but due to us allowing them a free man in defence. The mids were also very lazy that day and our centre bounce set ups were @@@@e. I don't think we will make the same mistakes again.

I like your thinking but from a practical perspective the sub should be more versatile than Membrey. What do we do if a backman injures himself?

[undy]

I'm a bit peeved with the people who want to axe 'Big' Tommy Derrickx. I wasn't a fan at all but I think he has come in and done the job. Pykie was bloody dreadful last week. Just for turning his back on the play he should get dropped in my opinion.

When he was jogging back to occupy the goal line assuming that Goode's (being a forward) would line up for a set shot from 30m ???

Every ruck man who fails to go to the goal line in these circumstances gets criticised if the opposition get a hand to it.

It shouldn't have happened, but blaming Pyke is pretty rich.



Welcome back.

[wolftone57]

I like your thinking but from a practical perspective the sub should be more versatile than Membrey. What do we do if a backman injures himself?

We have Macca, Reid & Zac. I don't see the prob. The other nice thing is that 'Stuart' can play mids if need be

[wolftone57]

When he was jogging back to occupy the goal line assuming that Goode's (being a forward) would line up for a set shot from 30m ???

Every ruck man who fails to go to the goal line in these circumstances gets criticised if the opposition get a hand to it.

It shouldn't have happened, but blaming Pyke is pretty rich.



Welcome back.

Sorry but this is a game where you have to be aware. If you are trotting back to the goal square you need to be aware of what is happening behind you. Therefore you either are looking over your shoulder or you jog backward. So don't start that @@@@. It was just a lack of Aussie Rules experience. Mind you I have seen Matthew Richardson, Jesse White, Tom Hawkins, Matty Pitman & a few other rather slow thinking boys do the same. But it is still a golden rule of footy. Always know where the ball is!

[wolftone57]

If biggs was next in line as a running half back, hed be on the list already.

I think some of you have a romantic view of our list. We are here to win a flag, not promote rookies to get experience. Flags are won by teams who usually have stable team lists using a minimum of players through the season.

Barry, Biggs proved he has the goods in 2013. There is no doubt he would be a walk up in most other AFL sides. The lack of injuries has hurt him this year and the fact that we did not upgrade him in the draft. I think he would be a very good upgrade next year. But to say that we don't use rookies is crap. We have always used them and got plenty out of them. Take Jake Lloyd, he is an upgraded rookie. Biggs was last year and he was one of our best in the finals. Yes most sides hope that injury doesn't stuff them up but you always need to have a good back up in case of an injury.

[jono2707]

Sorry but this is a game where you have to be aware. If you are trotting back to the goal square you need to be aware of what is happening behind you. Therefore you either are looking over your shoulder or you jog backward. So don't start that @@@@. It was just a lack of Aussie Rules experience. Mind you I have seen Matthew Richardson, Jesse White, Tom Hawkins, Matty Pitman & a few other rather slow thinking boys do the same. But it is still a golden rule of footy. Always know where the ball is!

Check the replay and you'll also see the Tigers' defender (can't remember who) also take his eye off the play, stop, and not head towards the goals. Poor play on his behalf too and I'm sure this would have been pointed out to him during the Tigers' video review. Poor play all round and not necessarily all Mike's fault, and not necessarily due to him not growing up playing AFL.

[swansrob]

Check the replay and you'll also see the Tigers' defender (can't remember who) also take his eye off the play, stop, and not head towards the goals. Poor play on his behalf too and I'm sure this would have been pointed out to him during the Tigers' video review. Poor play all round and not necessarily all Mike's fault, and not necessarily due to him not growing up playing AFL.

Poor play by Goodes to handball to a guy with his back to him, especially when he had a relatively easy set shot.

[goods78]

Sorry but this is a game where you have to be aware. If you are trotting back to the goal square you need to be aware of what is happening behind you. Therefore you either are looking over your shoulder or you jog backward. So don't start that @@@@. It was just a lack of Aussie Rules experience. Mind you I have seen Matthew Richardson, Jesse White, Tom Hawkins, Matty Pitman & a few other rather slow thinking boys do the same. But it is still a golden rule of footy. Always know where the ball is!

Mike Pyke has not had a handball receive all year......I'm sure he was not expecting it with his back turned from a dual Brownlow medalist 35m out!

[mcs]

Mike Pyke has not had a handball receive all year......I'm sure he was not expecting it with his back turned from a dual Brownlow medalist 35m out!

This.

Seriously, Pyke should have been more aware, but the guy is hardly a goal on the run expert - 9999/10000, goodes would go back and kick for goal. For some bizarre reason, this time he didn't. I know Pyke should have done better, but to criticise him over what was clearly a 'wtf' moment from goodes is harsh.