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  • Derryn23
    On the Rookie List
    • Mar 2012
    • 10

    Midfield crystal ball 2018

    I was watching the NSW/ACT Rams win yesterday over QLD and it got me thinking that I can actually see some real talent coming through especially into the midfield.

    It's fair to say that Kinnear has a brilliant transition plan for the midfield over the next 5 years when the likes of McVeigh & Jack are gone and JPK is in his twilight. I've left Hanners out (as an example) as there will always be some collateral damage and he will be eligible for free agency so it would be a tough assignment to keep him considering his is an Xav boy and the offers will be coming in droves. It's important that we can match it with the likes of GC, Bulldogs & GWS mids who will all be superstars by this time as they have the majority of all the quality in the recent drafts through the middle.

    Luke PARKER (c)
    Tom MITCHELL
    Jake LLOYD
    Gary Rohan
    Isaac HEENEY
    Brandon JACK
    Zak JONES
    Callum MILLS
    Harry CUNNINGHAM
    Lewis JETTA

    Another midfield that bats fairly deep. 6 of these kids will have been 1st round draft picks. In addition, recruiters could now also argue that Parker should have gone in the 1st round. Fairly exciting if you ask me!
  • Matt80
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Sep 2013
    • 1802

    #2
    Originally posted by Derryn23
    I was watching the NSW/ACT Rams win yesterday over QLD and it got me thinking that I can actually see some real talent coming through especially into the midfield.

    It's fair to say that Kinnear has a brilliant transition plan for the midfield over the next 5 years when the likes of McVeigh & Jack are gone and JPK is in his twilight. I've left Hanners out (as an example) as there will always be some collateral damage and he will be eligible for free agency so it would be a tough assignment to keep him considering his is an Xav boy and the offers will be coming in droves. It's important that we can match it with the likes of GC, Bulldogs & GWS mids who will all be superstars by this time as they have the majority of all the quality in the recent drafts through the middle.

    Luke PARKER (c)
    Tom MITCHELL
    Jake LLOYD
    Gary Rohan
    Isaac HEENEY
    Brandon JACK
    Zak JONES
    Callum MILLS
    Harry CUNNINGHAM
    Lewis JETTA

    Another midfield that bats fairly deep. 6 of these kids will have been 1st round draft picks. In addition, recruiters could now also argue that Parker should have gone in the 1st round. Fairly exciting if you ask me!
    Like the thinking. I think K.Jack and Kennedy will still be around as they would only be 30 or 31. They would be spending more time up forward like Goodes now and Jude Bolton before him. I think Craig Bird will still be on the list and fighting for his career like ROK is now. I think a successful club, a lifelong friendship with Buddy and a life in Bondi would convince Hanners to reject Free Agency and stay.

    I saw a poster mention earlier that Jetta may want to return to WA and I think that's probably a fair assumption. Either at the end of this season or the next West Coast or Fremantle will hand over their first round pick for him.

    I think Mitchell will want to leave at the end of this year to get more opportunities. This will net us a late first round pick (Ludwig thinks we could get top 10).

    This could leave us with a bumper trade period this year, where we get Heeney, Davis and potentially another two first rounders.

    People rate George Hewitt as a good prospect and Daniel Robinson I think has a role to play.

    People also mention that young Dunkley is a good midfield prospect under the father/son.

    Let's not forget the riches that the Academy can throw up after Mills. I think the NSW and Queensland academy's will produce the best AFL players in the future because they get hard, brave, fearless, athletic kids who have played League and Union and have enough time to teach them blue chip AFL skills. Nursery's in Victoria, SA and WA have skillfull kids but they may not be as hard as ex Leugue and Union players. I think Eddie knows this about the Northern Academy's and he is scared.

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    • longmile
      Crumber
      • Apr 2011
      • 3365

      #3
      Kennedy will definetly move into a CHF role in the twilight of his career with his strength and leading ability and marking overhead.

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      • Melb Blood Bro
        On the Rookie List
        • Jun 2014
        • 204

        #4
        I just posted this comment on another thread which is pertinent to this thread;
        I wouldn't have an issue loosing a fringe midfielder like him if we can get reasonable compensation. Players such as Hannaberry, Mitchell, Cunningham, Lloyd, Jones, Perris, Heeney, Mills, etc (nice midfield isn't it) are always going to be in front of them for the next decade. Hewitt is looking promising too. There just isn't the room for all these mids. If we can trade some of the mids on the outer cusp of selection and be compensated for it we should. And please, any talk of trading Mitchell should stop. He's the son of a former Swans champion and is going to be a champion himself one day. You can't go trading f/s's to other clubs.

        Oops, I forgot Dunkley if we can get him too.
        Last edited by Melb Blood Bro; 3 July 2014, 11:32 AM.

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        • Melb Blood Bro
          On the Rookie List
          • Jun 2014
          • 204

          #5
          Originally posted by Matt80
          Like the thinking. I think K.Jack and Kennedy will still be around as they would only be 30 or 31. They would be spending more time up forward like Goodes now and Jude Bolton before him. I think Craig Bird will still be on the list and fighting for his career like ROK is now. I think a successful club, a lifelong friendship with Buddy and a life in Bondi would convince Hanners to reject Free Agency and stay.

          I saw a poster mention earlier that Jetta may want to return to WA and I think that's probably a fair assumption. Either at the end of this season or the next West Coast or Fremantle will hand over their first round pick for him.

          I think Mitchell will want to leave at the end of this year to get more opportunities. This will net us a late first round pick (Ludwig thinks we could get top 10).

          This could leave us with a bumper trade period this year, where we get Heeney, Davis and potentially another two first rounders.

          People rate George Hewitt as a good prospect and Daniel Robinson I think has a role to play.

          People also mention that young Dunkley is a good midfield prospect under the father/son.

          Let's not forget the riches that the Academy can throw up after Mills. I think the NSW and Queensland academy's will produce the best AFL players in the future because they get hard, brave, fearless, athletic kids who have played League and Union and have enough time to teach them blue chip AFL skills. Nursery's in Victoria, SA and WA have skillfull kids but they may not be as hard as ex Leugue and Union players. I think Eddie knows this about the Northern Academy's and he is scared.
          Matt, where is this talk of Mitchell departing coming from? I've only heard it from you. The main reason he hasn't been getting a game is because he's been injured. From memory he was only dropped once due to poor form.

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          • jono2707
            Goes up to 11
            • Oct 2007
            • 3326

            #6
            Originally posted by Melb Blood Bro
            Matt, where is this talk of Mitchell departing coming from? I've only heard it from you. The main reason he hasn't been getting a game is because he's been injured. From memory he was only dropped once due to poor form.
            All this talk of Mitchell being traded, and being said with such certainty by this particular poster, is becoming quite a yawn really......

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            • DeadlyAkkuret
              Veterans List
              • Oct 2006
              • 4547

              #7
              Yeah it's time to shut up about it I reckon.

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              • Melb Blood Bro
                On the Rookie List
                • Jun 2014
                • 204

                #8
                Originally posted by longmile
                Kennedy will definetly move into a CHF role in the twilight of his career with his strength and leading ability and marking overhead.
                He'd be a little similar to Goodesy when he played there. What would we do with Franklin?

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                • Industrial Fan
                  Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 3318

                  #9
                  dead-horse11.jpgAll this talk about Mitchell.
                  He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                  • Matt80
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 1802

                    #10
                    This thread is about predicting who will be in the Swans midfield in 2018. My eloquent post only covered Mitchell for one small paragraph.

                    The person who started the thread stated that he thought Hanners would not be there in 2018. Why has this prediction not received any heat?

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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Industrial Fan
                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]1049[/ATTACH].
                      I've been trying to think of a good caption for this:

                      1. Matt80 meets our Coach.
                      2. Tom Mitchell meets Matt80.
                      3. Tom Derickx meets Ludwig.
                      4. Anyone from RWO meets Eddie McGuire.

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                      • ernie koala
                        Senior Player
                        • May 2007
                        • 3251

                        #12
                        Matt, you just bang on and on, every chance you get, with your misguided assumptions RE : Mitchell. It's not eloquent, it's repetitive.
                        Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                        • Matt80
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 1802

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ludwig
                          I've been trying to think of a good caption for this:

                          1. Matt80 meets our Coach.
                          2. Tom Mitchell meets Matt80.
                          3. Tom Derickx meets Ludwig.
                          4. Anyone from RWO meets Eddie McGuire.
                          The Horse knows I'm a pundit who in not part of the inner conversations and decision making. The Horse would be proud that I'm part of the supporters conversation on the Swans.

                          Mitchell would love me as I'm advocating for him to get more senior games and more money. I don't think he likes people who are happy for him to spend more time in the NEAFL.

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                          • Industrial Fan
                            Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 3318

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Matt80
                            Mitchell would love me as I'm advocating for him to get more senior games and more money. I don't think he likes people who are happy for him to spend more time in the NEAFL.
                            Classic strawman.

                            You're exhausting.
                            He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                            • Flying South
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 585

                              #15
                              Matt's entitled to an opinion after all it is a public forum. With all the midfield 'potential', some hard decisions may need to be made by the list management department to fit them all in. If he turns out to be correct, I wonder if a few will offer up apologies.
                              But as I said above, what these kids are showing is potential, which is a big difference to proven senior form that Mitchell and Hannebery and the like have given on a regular basis. More than what Gary Rohan has done for quite some time. So at the risk of being shot down, maybe he could be put up for trade for a KPD.

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