We've had enough McGuire!

[kilroy]

When you hear some guy in his 60s or 70s make some off colour comment, you can see where it comes from, they grew up in the
1950s or 1960s where it was very common. But these morons that are the Melbourne football media pack aren't even that old. Most of these clowns are in their 40s and allegedly "grew up" in the 1980s. I presume they are so wrapped up in themselves and the sound of their own voice they haven't noticed that the Australia in 2016 is a different place to the old White Australia policy country. It's like last year with the booing of Goodsey, it bothered me that my love of footy meant I had something in common with so many grubby, stupid people. The people that stick up for McGuire & co (the it's just a bit of fun excuse) have reminded me of that.

I went to school in the 80s and early 90s, I am sorta the same vintage as these idiots..sort of..but the way they all act, all of them, remind me exactly how the @@@@ty "cool blokes" at my school acted. Bullying, name calling, random acts of nastiness, lot of casual racism and @@@@ attitudes towards "chicks". A lot of stupid males my age haven't really matured since high school and still act and think the same way, not all but it seems to be a certain demographic, bogans. And their behaviour is excused as being "the boys" as if its acceptable to be middle age and still act like a nasty stupid teenager.

And the Eddie McGuire gang is just that, a group of school boys from the 80s who haven't grown up one bit and still hold on to those old world attitudes. Its all footy, piss ups, taking the piss outta each other and chicks maate. If McGuire wasn't a media head honcho and we had a more professional AFL media we wouldn't have callers like Darcy, Richo and BT but the AFL media is just really dumb.

I mean during indigenous round McGuire makes a racist comment after a racist incident, then has a meltdown about an imaginary spear a few seasons later THEN he makes a stupid violent remark towards a woman a week out from the AFL having a violence against woman round.

How friggen dumb must you be!

But as much as we dont want to say it, all of the stuff McGuire says is sad reflection of this countries attitude. I mean it took a week for the comment to see the light because MMM listeners didnt think anything of it. The AFL tries to be progressive but the sad reality is, a lot of AFL fans are ignorant. And you read the comments online today and you wonder how much more we have to go until all these outdated attitudes are put to rest.

[0918330512]

In defence of Carey, he very quickly divorced himself from it straight away on air when he said he thought Eddie was asking him whether he would be prepared to go down the slide next year, not whether he would be party to doing over Caro. FWIW, he seemed genuine and there was confusion...

Yup. I'll accept that

[Blue Sun]

How many times can Chins get himself off the hook? He's a racist, sexist uneducated moron. He has no place as Collingwood's president or as a media shock jock. If anyone else of his stature had said these kinds of things they would have been sacked years ago.

[KTigers]

It might not be comparing apples for apples, but the two other sports I follow are baseball & golf, and the standard and professionalism of the commentary in them is way beyond what we get in AFL. Sure, these sports (esp golf) are multi billion dollar international industries with significant amounts of corporate involvement and that may lead to a level of homogenisation in the way they are reported on. But you don't just get the inanities of a small town boys club ad nauseam when you watch a MLB game or PGA tour event on TV. The Yankees CEO is not commentating their games on national television, a PGA tour director is not performing stupid so called comedy skits on a golf show. The baseball & golf commentators are mostly intelligent and thoughtful people not prone to histrionics. They know their place, that the game or tournament is not about them. They are not perfect but are a long long way ahead of what is served up as commentary & reporting in the AFL.

[Ludwig]

ABC online has an article on the history of Eddie's 'gaffes' as they call it. Eddie McGuire's gaffes file - when the Magpies chief and Channel Nine star's mouth got him in trouble - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

We shouldn't forget his association in various capacities with the Footy Show and all they've been involved in over the years. I understand that media companies are interested in ratings and profit and someone like McGuire can find a home in that kind of environment.

My objection is that the AFL is an organisation that directly and indirectly has thousands of employees and runs a competition with millions of fans. Is it appropriate to have Eddie McGuire as its 'poster boy', because he is, in fact, the highest profile personality in the AFL? He is clearly a blight on the game. No other person with this behaviour has ever been afforded the level of tolerance that Eddie has. It would be like giving Barry Hall a $500 fine for his knockout punch on Brent Staker.

I can't see why anything less than a lifetime ban for McGuire would be appropriate considering his litany of offences. Just let the mind wander a moment and think of how much better footy would be without Eddie McGuire. The thought alone takes me to a very pleasant place.

[KTigers]

It is bewildering that hundreds of millions of dollars are spent every year on new clubs, development etc with the goal of "growing the game" against competition from the other codes in a small market (Australia), yet the presentation of the game via it's coverage & commentary on TV is so boorish & amateur because of these bogans in Melbourne. Why doesn't the AFL impose some kind of code for journalistic standards over the media companies that pay for the rights. No, they just take the cheque, pat themselves on the back for collecting it and barely say a "tut tut" when one of these clowns utters yet another offensive, damaging comment. The AFL has set them themselves up to be responsible for the game, but won't hold anybody accountable for anything. The game will continue to
go nowhere while that happens.

[top40]

The response from the AFL was both disgraceful and sadly expected. Would the AFL ever sanction McGuire? Maybe on the 21st or 22nd occasion he offends; but probably not even then,

And what apology? Would he have apologised if he had not been caught out?

Also, can he explain this "joke" or "banter"? Specifically, what was the basis of this attempt to communicate a humorous message?

Gillion McLachlan, you are a very weak man who obviously fails to show both courage and leadership. Today is a very dark day for this football code.

[BRISWAN]

DONT DEFLECT THE SUBJECT MATTER MY FRIEND?..
As I see it , our comments ,originally were in relation to how women are treated respectfully by individuals
You are attempting to bring political agendas forward rather than day to day respect for women
McGuire and Co regardless of their age, have over stepped the the line regarding the point I was making.

Pulling out a chair is all well and good, but unequal pay for women until 1969, no uniform indigenous Australians voting rights until 1967, homosexuality being a crime.... where do they fit into good manners and courtesy?

[barry]

Its goodes all over again. I can imagine the masses starting to boo caro at games

[Mel_C]

What I would love to see but it won't happen is for the sponsors of Collingwood to take a stand and pull out. Why would they want to be associated with someone with his morals? This is what would hurt Eddie because it is affecting his club.

[Hotpotato]

Was MGuires 'joke' , 'just meant as a bit of fun ' to hold a fellow journalist under water until she was dead (cheered on by Brayshaw and Frawley ) have any element of humour whatsoever .

What exactly was the funny side about it ?

I mean even if they were caught on camera in a private party completely intoxicated like Mitchell Pearce there would still be no excuses , but at a public event to raise money for charity.

It beggars belief they are still holding down all their respective and highly lucrative positions .
I just don't get it .

[barry]

Jamar gets a fine for swearing at an umpire. Brad scott is sure to be fine for insuating a bias. Eddie walks after saying hed like to drown a woman.

Gill the dill.

[Zlatorog]

AFL for me is a major disappointment, not only how they treated our club, but also their slow reaction to racist bullying of Adam Goods. All of that was instigated by McGuire and his cronies. My financial support is limited only to support Sydney Swans and nobody else.

[Danzar]

Caroline Wilson: Eddie McGuire's ice pool attack took me back to the bad old days

A fairly measured response from Caro.

Probably still bruised from when Dermie flew off the handle and attacked Caro on air when she called him out on Goodes last year. Caro may believe it is safer now to be a small target.

Disgusting. All of these dickheads are culpable. Those in power should have, and could have put a stop to this long ago and didn't, and will continue to close ranks when it happens again. Gill is a coward and fails the leadership test yest again.

[Nico]

Pulling out a chair is all well and good, but unequal pay for women until 1969, no uniform indigenous Australians voting rights until 1967, homosexuality being a crime.... where do they fit into good manners and courtesy?

You know what......we could argue forever the differences between generations. Those in the times you are quoting (60's) were saying how backward pre war was etc
So they jumped headlong into drugs. Nowadays civil society could be said to be out of control with an extension of that time. The drug culture is haywire. My 24 year old daughter tells me that many of her peers are downright rude and disrespectful, thinking they have a mortgage on all knowledge. So am I to believe that manners and respect in your eyes, are obsolete. As Briswan said, those issues you quote were political and not what the general public aspired to.