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  • Bloods05
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2008
    • 1641

    #16
    Originally posted by Matt80
    I have not entered this forum to reaffirm any of my previous opinions. If Mitchell wanted to move I believe the most likely destination would be the Melbourne Demons not Carlton due to deal dynamics.

    Roos is a crafty trade operator and I believe he is planning astutely for Danny Frawley to leave.

    This is the fantasy deal I believe will go through:

    Tom Mitchill, Nick Malcski and Loyd Perris for Pick 4 to the Swans.
    Melbourne would then get pick 5 as compensation for Frawley.
    Roos would not want to take Malceski under free agency because it would affect the compensation with Frawley. He would package up Mitchill and Malceski and would push for Lloyd Perris to be the deal sweetener (we know Roos has a high opinion of Perris and he would have low currency coming off an ACL).

    Mitchell may want to leave the Swans for more first team football, Malceski may want to leave for a better pay day, and Perris may want to be on a Senior list.

    I think the Swans would like a top 5 pick in the draft. Melbourne gets three players and still has one early pick in the draft.

    Any trade for Malceski is probably better than pick 40 in free agency. Mitchill is worth IMO apick 12-20 at the trade and Perris may be the late sweetner.
    Danny Frawley is leaving Bounce? Why wasn't I told?

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    • CJK
      Human
      • Apr 2006
      • 2170

      #17
      Originally posted by Matt80
      Mitchell may want to leave the Swans for more first team football, Malceski may want to leave for a better pay day, and Perris may want to be on a Senior list.
      Flawless!
      -

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      • 0918330512
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2011
        • 1654

        #18
        Originally posted by Matt80
        I have not entered this forum to reaffirm any of my previous opinions. If Mitchell wanted to move I believe the most likely destination would be the Melbourne Demons not Carlton due to deal dynamics.

        Roos is a crafty trade operator and I believe he is planning astutely for Danny Frawley to leave.

        This is the fantasy deal I believe will go through:

        Tom Mitchill, Nick Malcski and Loyd Perris for Pick 4 to the Swans.
        Melbourne would then get pick 5 as compensation for Frawley.
        Roos would not want to take Malceski under free agency because it would affect the compensation with Frawley. He would package up Mitchill and Malceski and would push for Lloyd Perris to be the deal sweetener (we know Roos has a high opinion of Perris and he would have low currency coming off an ACL).

        Mitchell may want to leave the Swans for more first team football, Malceski may want to leave for a better pay day, and Perris may want to be on a Senior list.

        I think the Swans would like a top 5 pick in the draft. Melbourne gets three players and still has one early pick in the draft.

        Any trade for Malceski is probably better than pick 40 in free agency. Mitchill is worth IMO apick 12-20 at the trade and Perris may be the late sweetner.
        That whole bundle for pick 5 is fantasy alright!

        If Mitchell wants more firsts footy it just takes less injuries. He can sit out injured just as well at Sydney as he could at the Dees.

        The way he's started, Perris will likely be on our senior list soon enough.

        Next player(s) you wanna bundle off to the Dees??

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        • DA_Swan
          Warming the Bench
          • Feb 2010
          • 322

          #19
          "If " Mitchell wants to leave and Carlton is his choice for a trade and "if" Malceski gets the big bucks that he probably deserves and goes for free to Melbourne then maybe that was why Chris Yarran smiled at Buddy last week - would be a good replacement for Malceski if he wants to go

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          • undy
            Fatal error: Allowed memo
            • Mar 2003
            • 1231

            #20
            Originally posted by Matt80
            This is the fantasy deal I believe will go through:

            Tom Mitchill, Nick Malcski and Loyd Perris for Pick 4 to the Swans.
            Melbourne would then get pick 5 as compensation for Frawley.
            I'll give you odds of 10-1 this doesn't happen and will take your money up to $100.
            Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way you'll be a mile away and he'll be shoeless.

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              #21
              Originally posted by undy
              I'll give you odds of 10-1 this doesn't happen and will take your money up to $100.
              Sportsbet is giving 1,000,000 to 1.

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              • Number 43
                Warming the Bench
                • Dec 2008
                • 168

                #22
                Does that mean we would then have to give up pick 4 instead of 18 for Heeney?

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                • Conor_Dillon
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 1224

                  #23
                  Matt80 I normally love reading your opinions because you're not scared to say what you think and that is what RWO is all about...but that deal is laughable...Mitchell alone is worth a top 10 pick...inside mids like him are as rare as hens teeth in modern football these days given the obsession with speed...any club would love to build a 10 year midfield around a player like Tom and that is why Sydney won't let him leave.
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                  • Doctor J.
                    Senior Player
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 1310

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Matt80
                    I have not entered this forum to reaffirm any of my previous opinions. If Mitchell wanted to move I believe the most likely destination would be the Melbourne Demons not Carlton due to deal dynamics.

                    Roos is a crafty trade operator and I believe he is planning astutely for Danny Frawley to leave.

                    This is the @@@@ing idiot recruiters deal I believe will go through:

                    Tom Mitchill, Nick Malcski and Loyd Perris for Pick 4 to the Swans.
                    Melbourne would then get pick 5 as compensation for Frawley.
                    Roos would not want to take Malceski under free agency because it would affect the compensation with Frawley. He would package up Mitchill and Malceski and would push for Lloyd Perris to be the deal sweetener (we know Roos has a high opinion of Perris and he would have low currency coming off an ACL).

                    Mitchell may want to leave the Swans for more first team football, Malceski may want to leave for a better pay day, and Perris may want to be on a Senior list.

                    I think the Swans would like a top 5 pick in the draft. Melbourne gets three players and still has one early pick in the draft.

                    Any trade for Malceski is probably better than pick 40 in free agency. Mitchill is worth IMO apick 12-20 at the trade and Perris may be the late sweetner.
                    I know there are rules on RWO about not playing the man.

                    Moderators, allow me this one indulgence??

                    Matt80, you sir know absolutely nothing about trading and drafting.

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                    • Melbourne_Blood
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2010
                      • 3312

                      #25
                      That's a lot to give up for 1 pick that May or may not be a gun.

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                      • southsideswan
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 237

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Number 43
                        Does that mean we would then have to give up pick 4 instead of 18 for Heeney?
                        I have not idea how it works but I thought that would be the case, we give up our first pick for Heeney, what ever it is. I still can not see why the Swans should "sell the farm" for movement up the draft ladder. Some Clubs need to but appears the Swans develop their squad basically from the "leftovers", except for a few minor exceptions.

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                        • Flying South
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 585

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Doctor J.
                          I know there are rules on RWO about not playing the man.

                          Moderators, allow me this one indulgence??

                          Matt80, you sir know absolutely nothing about trading and drafting.
                          That's a little unfair Doc. What are your credentials in regards to trading? Imagine the outcry if Matt suggested we trade, Kennedy or Jack for a young KPP. Which is the sort of thing Luke Darcy is suggesting for the bulldogs. "Western Bulldogs ruckman Luke Darcy suggested the Bulldogs should use skipper Ryan Griffen as currency to lure one of GWS's three tall forwards to Witten Oval. The 2002 all-Australian said the bulldogs must be bold and brave to give them the best possible chance at poaching one of the Giants big men." Now he is somebody who has a better understanding of top level football and trading than any of us here, and he points out that bold and brave decisions are required to prise top 5 picks out of clubs. Just as Matt80 is suggesting. Whether we need to do the trade or agree with his evaluation of trade value is an interesting debate. But don't just dismiss his opinion just because you don't agree with it. Poorly played.

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                          • Beerman
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 823

                            #28
                            It's hard to see a reason why the Swans would do *any* deal involving Mitchell. He's young, highly valued, has two more years to run on his contract and is apparently happy at the club. Even if he requests to go, we are under no obligation to trade him, and he must know that it's a long shot. Perhaps if Carlton offered him a ton of money we might have to worry about him becoming dissatisfied with the club, but that seems very unlikely, particularly given that we're looking after him pretty well in that department already.

                            If we trade for picks, we might reduce our salary cap, but if we need to free up cap space I think there are a lot of places we would look before getting rid of Mitchell.

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                            • Jewels
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3258

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Number 43
                              Does that mean we would then have to give up pick 4 instead of 18 for Heeney?
                              I'm no expert but I don't think so. My understanding is that the Heeney deal is done prior to trade week and the draft.

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                              • Mug Punter
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 3325

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Doctor J.
                                I know there are rules on RWO about not playing the man.

                                Moderators, allow me this one indulgence??

                                Matt80, you sir know absolutely nothing about trading and drafting.
                                He knows little about little.....

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