Changes Round 22 v Bulldogs

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  • Matt80
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Sep 2013
    • 1802

    Originally posted by jono2707
    Yes and the experiment didn't work, according to Darren Lehmann - his philosophy is playing the best available players at all times.
    A little harsh. James Paterson broke down after giving his all in that final test in South Africa. Starc broke down after bowling his heart out in India. It depends on the physical talents of the player. It's rare to find players as physically resilient as Mitch Johnson in cricket and Josh Kennedy in AFL. Those two guys relish the workload. Other players need to rest their bodies and be managed carefully. It depends!

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    • Jewels
      On the Rookie List
      • Oct 2006
      • 3258

      The point was that Lehmanns philosophy is to not rest players unless injured as opposed to Mickey Arthur's rotation policy which has been far more successful for the Australian cricket team.
      No one is saying to not rest injured players, just that many of us don't believe in resting players for the hell of it as many on here are suggesting.

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      • ShockOfHair
        One Man Out
        • Dec 2007
        • 3668

        Originally posted by Jewels
        The point was that Lehmanns philosophy is to not rest players unless injured as opposed to Mickey Arthur's rotation policy which has been far more successful for the Australian cricket team.
        No one is saying to not rest injured players, just that many of us don't believe in resting players for the hell of it as many on here are suggesting.
        For sure. Club medicos have tools that can measure players' workloads and stack that up against their physical capabilities. They know pretty precisely if a player is cooked and could benefit from a week off. Rather than, say, list off a random bunch of players 'who look tired.'
        The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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        • Matimbo
          Warming the Bench
          • Apr 2009
          • 334

          My opinion FWIW (less than half a packet of stale biscuits):

          - We are at the top of the ladder
          - Win the next 2 games and the first semi and we automatically get a week off for the whole team
          - Quite a few of our players have had enforced rests recently due to injury

          I say play everybody that is match fit this week.
          CIA Agent to Policeman: "Have you ever had anti-terrorist training?"
          Policeman: "Yes, I was married once."

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          • Gary
            Regular in the Side
            • Sep 2005
            • 608

            I think your biscuits are tasting better ... fully agree with your thinking.

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            • Ampersand
              On the Rookie List
              • Apr 2014
              • 694

              Originally posted by Matimbo
              My opinion FWIW (less than half a packet of stale biscuits):

              - We are at the top of the ladder
              - Win the next 2 games and the first semi and we automatically get a week off for the whole team
              - Quite a few of our players have had enforced rests recently due to injury

              I say play everybody that is match fit this week.
              Technically, we only need to win one. If Hawthorn win two that means Geelong can only win one, putting us on equal points in second but at a better percentage. If Geelong win two that means Hawthorn will be four points behind us.

              If we win the next one against the Dogs the case is there to rest a handful of players against Richmond, especially on the dodgy ANZ stadium deck.

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              • Flying South
                Regular in the Side
                • Sep 2013
                • 585

                Originally posted by Conor_Dillon
                I think what people are trying to say either way is:

                If resting certain players will benefit the group and give us the best chance of winning the premiership, then do it,

                If not resting players will benefit the group and give us the best chance of winning the premiership, then do it.

                Either way we should trust the guys getting paid the big bucks to make these calls!
                Agree whole heartedly. But as we are not privy to inside medical assessments, all we can do is put forward opinions. But I do trust our club to make all the right decisions.

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                • aguy
                  Senior Player
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 1324

                  Out Kennedy bird

                  In shaw smith Mitchell nankervis membrey

                  It's no help cause we want to know who is emergencies and who is in team lol

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                  • annew
                    Senior Player
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 2164

                    Originally posted by Ampersand
                    Technically, we only need to win one. If Hawthorn win two that means Geelong can only win one, putting us on equal points in second but at a better percentage. If Geelong win two that means Hawthorn will be four points behind us.
                    If we win the next one against the Dogs the case is there to rest a handful of players against Richmond, especially on the dodgy ANZ stadium deck.
                    Depends if we would rather play Freo or Geelong week 1 of finals.

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                    • Matt79
                      Bring it on!
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 3143

                      This game has "Late Changes" written over it too!
                      Swannies for life!

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                      • aguy
                        Senior Player
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 1324

                        Originally posted by Matt79
                        This game has "Late Changes" written over it too!
                        Nanko late change for Reid

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                        • wolftone57
                          Veterans List
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 5857

                          I think Tommy Mitchell & Smithy are automatic ins out of that lot. Rhyce can't play through the mids really. He can play forward or back though. If he comes in it would be for either Laidler or Biggs. With two mids out I would think that Smithy would come in and take the back pocket and Mitchell would go to the mids. That would free up Biggs to play wing defensive mid against their faster players. What happens is Kizza, Parks, Macca, Hannas etc to run off after the centre bounces and leave Biggs to take the faster players like Libber, Cooney or Boyd. Griffin is not fast but elusive and probably will get Parks & Mitchell as opponents, he could be in for a long night as hos defensive game is not always that great.

                          Biggs did a great job on Lenny last week and might also be a good match for Griffin. But I think he might just get Boyd after the bounce.

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                          • Ludwig
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9359

                            Minson is out for the Dogs, so they are starting Tom Campbell in the ruck with perhaps a backup from Ayce Cordy playing his first game this year. It's the perfect time for the Nankanator to make his debut.

                            I don't think WB have any allusions about winning this game.

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                            • liz
                              Veteran
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16773

                              Originally posted by wolftone57
                              leave Biggs to take the faster players like Libber, Cooney or Boyd. Griffin is not fast but elusive .
                              Libber and Boyd would be two of the Dogs' slowest players. Cooney used to be quick but injuries have curtailed his speed somewhat.

                              On the other hand, Griffin genuinely is quick. He'd be one of their quickest two or three.

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                              • liz
                                Veteran
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 16773

                                Originally posted by Ampersand
                                If we win the next one against the Dogs the case is there to rest a handful of players against Richmond, especially on the dodgy ANZ stadium deck.
                                Or, alternatively, we could play all our first choice players who are fit enough to play with a view to them getting a game in at the very same venue that we will almost certainly be playing at the following week.

                                I am willing to wager a bit on which approach Longmire and co will take.

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