Grand Final: Sydney Swans Reserves v Aspley Hornets

[Auntie.Gerald]

oh and plse plse plse plse plse plse Tim Membrey grow another 4 cms so you can become a power forward !!!!!

i just reckon this kid kicks the ball as well as anyone running around in the game

[ernie koala]

As Ugg suggests the important thing for the ressies is development, where the ultimate aim is seniors footy...

But it must have been so disappointing to loose that match. Players are competitive beasts, that would of hurt them.

As for the final couple of plays....

How Lockyer wasn't awarded a free is beyond me. He pretty much took the mark for starters, and was then flattened square in the middle of the back... ridiculous.

Then the free against X, the vision isn't totally clear, but it looked like a standard handball to me??

[Northern_Swan]

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Sydney coach Jared Crouch was furious with the umpiring throughout the day and punched the door of the coaches box after the match, before reaching the field and screaming ?we were robbed??.


Ouch.

After (finally) watching the vision, I think Mr Crouch has a point. Diabolical

[Ludwig]

There were a number of questionable things that transpired in the 4th qtr. On the situation with the next to last Hornets' goal by Salisbury, the boundary throw in was from outside the 50, but came down around 10 meters inside the 50; it should have been thrown in at a proper angle so it lands as far from goal as from the out of bounds position. That one cost a goal.

I also suspect that the timekeeper waited long enough for Aspley to get another shot at goal before sounding the siren. The game went to nearly 34 minutes without there being any special circumstances that would account for such a long period.

That aside, there were so many positives from the player development perspective. Agree with Auntie about Membrey, but he doesn't need to grow taller. He has enough of a burst of speed to get his marks on the lead. His kicking accuracy is something special. I don't want to push Goodes out the door, but I want Membrey in the side from the start of next season.

Towers has really come on since his stints in the AFL. Given AJ"s unlikely future in football, Reid can play in defence and Towers can play forward, or we could decide what the better mix is between Towers and Rohan, one playing forward and the other back. They both can play tall at either end because of their leap and speed.

I don't know if it will be next year or 2016, but BJ will be another electrifying footballer.

Zak Jones is also looking ready for senor footy next year. He's quite quick and has good disposal instincts. Hard as nails as well.

Abe Davis hasn't shown enough in his NEAFL games to suggest he should be nominated for a senior list position. I wouldn't take him with a second round pick (40) with what he has shown so far. Maybe worth pre-selection on our rookie list if he gets through the ND.

[ugg]

First quarter thoughts

Nankervis prominent early on as the main forward target, not afraid to throw his weight around but also surprisingly agile when the ball hits the deck. Use of quick handballs were the platform for our early dominance but faded as the quarter ran on, we soon switched to hitting it long with the breeze. Membrey looked excellent with his mobility up the ground as well as his competitiveness inside 50. He kicked a great solo goal, fended off one defender and finished on the run on an angle. Then he set up Jack for his running goal, after staying down and crumbing front and square on the wing.


Richards at FB on Eddie Sansbury, Robinson tagging Matt Payne (and kept him to 0 disposals), Biggs playing off a wing again, Lockyer switched back to take Laidler's spot. Mills made some very strong tackles, impressive size for a youngster. Nankervis playing more ruck time than last week, I suspect due to the fact that Aspley have two genuine ruckman.

[stellation]

I can't see the handball to know, but sheesh they've got a right to a fair gripe as far as the mark/crunch seconds before is concerned.

The Aspley player looks to launch at the ball to mark, then when he won't make it turns sideways, has no eyes for the ball and his arms aren't up to mark when he makes contact. The umpire is there a second later to call the free so must have had his eyes on the contest.

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[stellation]

The other thing of note when watching it- the 3rd and 4th both had 7 goals, but the 4th ran for an extra 4 minutes. I couldn't really see where the extra time on came from. Would love to know if the NEAFL supplied time keepers or if it was Aspley.

[ugg]

I can't see the handball to know, but sheesh they've got a right to a fair gripe as far as the mark/crunch seconds before is concerned.

The Aspley player looks to launch at the ball to mark, then when he won't make it turns sideways, has no eyes for the ball and his arms aren't up to mark when he makes contact. The umpire is there a second later to call the free so must have had his eyes on the contest.

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Same umpire that does the ballup just outside the 50, he then ran inside 50 to make that non-call followed by the throw call. Which I found weird because I thought they do a handover to another umpire once the ball enters the fifty zone. I'm sure there were 3 umpires on duty yesterday.

[ugg]

Second quarter thoughts

Interesting that Nankervis played the majority of the quarter in the ruck and Naismith was playing up forward, unfortunately Naismith is not as effective as Nankervis as a FF and struggled once the ball hit the deck. Looked like they really targeted Biggs as a weak point, every time he received a handball they zeroed onto him and nailed the tackle causing either a poor disposal or turnover. Richards played well on the smaller Sansbury, keeping his feet and not going to ground. Didn't see Marsh at all in that quarter, so his injury must have come late in the first.


On the Aspley goals, a few were poor skill errors resulting in a turnover but most were from the Hornets running harder forward than the Swans going back which is disappointing. There were also a few questionable umpiring decisions including a really quick 50m decision against ROK for encroaching the mark that directly led to a goal.

[ugg]

The other thing of note when watching it- the 3rd and 4th both had 7 goals, but the 4th ran for an extra 4 minutes. I couldn't really see where the extra time on came from. Would love to know if the NEAFL supplied time keepers or if it was Aspley.

Not sure if you follow the English Premier League, but it's affectionately known as "Fergie Time" over there. Fergie Time - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[dimelb]

Same umpire that does the ballup just outside the 50, he then ran inside 50 to make that non-call followed by the throw call. Which I found weird because I thought they do a handover to another umpire once the ball enters the fifty zone. I'm sure there were 3 umpires on duty yesterday.

Was it a throw? Swans website article says free came from a push - is that the same incident, or another?

[ugg]

Was it a throw? Swans website article says free came from a push - is that the same incident, or another?

Umpire clearly called a throw. A push in the back should have been called for Lockyer in the marking contest earlier.

Was it a throw? Well if you do a frame by frame analysis (by clicking on the play/pause button really quickly) there is a possibility but it's close to impossible to definitively tell with the umpire blocking the view.

[stellation]

Not sure if you follow the English Premier League, but it's affectionately known as "Fergie Time" over there. Fergie Time - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't, but it looks to be the correct term!

I was pretty mindful watching the quarter as I knew it ran pretty long, there were 3 more behinds kicked than in the 3rd and we did go into stoppage mode to try to hold things up but it didn't seem like there were that many more to warrant that amount of extra time.

[Ludwig]

The other thing of note when watching it- the 3rd and 4th both had 7 goals, but the 4th ran for an extra 4 minutes. I couldn't really see where the extra time on came from. Would love to know if the NEAFL supplied time keepers or if it was Aspley.

I also suspect that the timekeeper waited long enough for Aspley to get another shot at goal before sounding the siren. The game went to nearly 34 minutes without there being any special circumstances that would account for such a long period.

The commentators were saying that there were only a few seconds left around 5 minutes before the final siren. My feeling is that Zak kicked the goal with less than a minute left and the timekeeper let the clock running until Aspley kicked the winning goal. You would have to think the timekeeper was a local.

[stellation]

The commentators were saying that there were only a few seconds left around 5 minutes before the final siren. My feeling is that Zak kicked the goal with less than a minute left and the timekeeper let the clock running until Aspley kicked the winning goal. You would have to think the timekeeper was a local.

I can't be bothered doing it now, but halfway through I did twig I should have grabbed a stop watch and just measured time along with the game as I watched.

I remember once at a local footy game (that was premier division for Sydney AFL years ago, and really should have been taken seriously) I was toddling over to the BBQ and stopped to watch an exciting passage of play by the home team, as they ran the ball out of defence on the wing right in front of me- I was standing next to the timekeeper, who went from looking at the stop watch to hovering with his hand over the button for the siren watching the play come up the wing, the home team had a mark spoiled, then a throw in and then when the away team cleared it from the contest he then pressed the siren. He hadn't looked at the time for about a minute or so before he ended up conceding nothing was coming of it.