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  • Conor_Dillon
    On the Rookie List
    • Jun 2013
    • 1224

    #31
    Originally posted by Plugger46
    Probably right.

    Those saying they wouldn't love him probably said the same about Buddy.
    Nah not in my case...I always loved big Bud...could never quite understand the animosity towards him when he first started out.
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    • mcs
      Travelling Swannie!!
      • Jul 2007
      • 8166

      #32
      Originally posted by Ampersand
      Agree with those saying that Harvey should be allowed to play. I would be beyond furious if a Swans player was banned for something so minor.

      If a bump requires a concussion test then by all means ban the player for an extended period. You'll find players will naturally eliminate the tactic from their game given the risk.

      Meanwhile, Zac Dawson is free to essentially punch players in the back of the head week after week under the guise of spoiling. The MRP system is rotten.
      The MRP system is broken, I'll agree with that. But I'm not unhappy with Harvey's suspension. I know he has got a lot of rough treatment over the years, but the incident was a fair way off where the ball was, completely unnecessary, and really pretty nigly. If he'd stop doing stupid things like that, then he wouldn't have a bunch of carryover points that turns a reprimand into a one week suspension.

      Hall was exceptionally lucky to play in 2005 - I don't think anyone can deny that.

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      Originally posted by tasmania60
      Dont forget 96 people ,2 weeks!
      +1 to this.
      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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      • southsideswan
        Warming the Bench
        • Oct 2012
        • 237

        #33
        In the scale of things the bump was not worth missing a prelim final. Selwoods head moved into Harveys head (I suppose all the same anyway). The problem is if there is consistency then 1 week. This happens alot and the player is able to play the next week due to good record. He has put himself in that position because it was not really in the heat of the battle just trying to exert a physical presence. I do feel sorry for Harvey but he was in total control of the situation (past record and contact) and he should suffer the consequences.

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          #34
          A lot of incidental head high contact is let go if it occurs in play, but if there is contact off the ball and the player elects to bump, then there's a problem. Like the frequent Zak Dawson whacks to the head trying to spoil, the player doesn't get called out that often when there appears to be a reasonable intention to play the ball. But taking someone out when not in play is frowned upon, especially if there is head high contact.

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          • Ampersand
            On the Rookie List
            • Apr 2014
            • 694

            #35
            Originally posted by mcs
            The MRP system is broken, I'll agree with that. But I'm not unhappy with Harvey's suspension. I know he has got a lot of rough treatment over the years, but the incident was a fair way off where the ball was, completely unnecessary, and really pretty nigly. If he'd stop doing stupid things like that, then he wouldn't have a bunch of carryover points that turns a reprimand into a one week suspension.

            Hall was exceptionally lucky to play in 2005 - I don't think anyone can deny that.

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            +1 to this.
            Harvey shepherded Selwood out of the contest after he hand passed and attempted an overlap one-two (you can see Selwood call for the ball just before he runs into Harvey). May not have been technically legal but it was within the run of play and this sort of body on body contact occurs all the time off the ball (particularly in the forward line).

            You can't honestly tell me that if McGlynn was out this week for something similar you wouldn't be pretty annoyed?

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            • dimelb
              pr. dim-melb; m not f
              • Jun 2003
              • 6889

              #36
              Originally posted by Ampersand
              Harvey shepherded Selwood out of the contest after he hand passed and attempted an overlap one-two (you can see Selwood call for the ball just before he runs into Harvey). May not have been technically legal but it was within the run of play and this sort of body on body contact occurs all the time off the ball (particularly in the forward line).

              You can't honestly tell me that if McGlynn was out this week for something similar you wouldn't be pretty annoyed?
              I would be annoyed - with Benny. To act like such a klutz when so much is at stake.

              All very well to call Ben "Angry Ant" - he goes in hard but you don't see him before the tribunal that often.
              He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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              • Zlatorog
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2006
                • 1748

                #37
                Isn't shepherding allowed only within 5 meters off the ball? If it's not shepherding what is it?

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                • southsideswan
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 237

                  #38
                  I think that is one of the points, it was far beyond 5 metres. Nearly all other players could have done the same thing and be playing next week but comes back to past record.

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                  • Mel_C
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 4470

                    #39
                    If I was a North supporter I would be pretty annoyed with Harvey. Very undisciplined player. Not just because of the suspensions but also the down field/50 metre penalties he gives away.

                    Buddy was guilty of the down field frees early in the year but he seems to have improved!

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                    • mcs
                      Travelling Swannie!!
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 8166

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Ampersand
                      Harvey shepherded Selwood out of the contest after he hand passed and attempted an overlap one-two (you can see Selwood call for the ball just before he runs into Harvey). May not have been technically legal but it was within the run of play and this sort of body on body contact occurs all the time off the ball (particularly in the forward line).

                      You can't honestly tell me that if McGlynn was out this week for something similar you wouldn't be pretty annoyed?
                      Id be pissed at benny for doing something so stupid. There was no need for harvey to do what he did - as I said, if he hadnt done as many stupid things recently, he wouldnt have so many carryover points and it wouldnt be an issue. Deserves a week just for his repeated stupidity haha!
                      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                      • Industrial Fan
                        Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 3318

                        #41
                        I dont think the hit is more than 5m away from the ball. If it is its certainly not more than 10.

                        Sets a horrible precedent. Its nothing like the Fyfe one from this year as his was a crunching bump. This didnt even knock Selwood over. I agree that it shouldnt make a difference if its the season or finals as far as tribunals are concerned.

                        But if Harvey is rubbed out, then Buddy should have gone following the Gold Coast game without question.
                        He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                        • Go Swannies
                          Veterans List
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 5697

                          #42
                          Titus O'Reily ?@TitusOReily 2m
                          North Melbourne wondering if anyone could give Brent Harvey a lift to the Tribunal.

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                          • Go Swannies
                            Veterans List
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 5697

                            #43
                            Titus O'Reily ?@TitusOReily 3m
                            Joel Selwood has arrived at the tribunal, but in bad news for Boomer, he is still bleeding.

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                            • DamY
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 1479

                              #44
                              I really enjoy Titus O'Reilly's tweets

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                              • Go Swannies
                                Veterans List
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 5697

                                #45
                                Originally posted by DamY
                                I really enjoy Titus O'Reilly's tweets
                                I've just discovered him but a few have been too good not to share. I didn't share the one where he posted that Norf had asked if someone could give Brent a lift to the tribunal and some else posted that Buddy was available.

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