Round 1 V Essendon

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 15976

    There's a NRL match the night before (the GF rematch of all things!) and there's possible rain on the Friday and the Saturday so there's a fairly good chance the ground might not be in great nick on Saturday afternoon.
    Reserves live updates (Twitter)
    Reserves WIKI -
    Top Goalkickers| Best Votegetters

    Comment

    • Untamed Snark
      Senior Player
      • Feb 2011
      • 1375

      Originally posted by ugg
      There's a NRL match the night before (the GF rematch of all things!) and there's possible rain on the Friday and the Saturday so there's a fairly good chance the ground might not be in great nick on Saturday afternoon.
      So normal conditions then?
      Chillin' with the strange Quarks

      Comment

      • aguy
        Senior Player
        • Mar 2014
        • 1324

        Originally posted by ugg

        So benny is out. Hope it doesn't become one of those lingering injuries.

        Here's my team:

        B: Smith - Richards - Rampe
        HB: McVeigh - Grundy - Shaw
        C: Bird - Mitchell - Hannebery
        HF: K.Jack - Franklin - Cunningham
        FF: Goodes - Tippett - Heeney
        Fol: Pkye - Kennedy - Parker
        INT: Reid - Jetta - Rohan
        SUB: Lloyd

        Tough to pick some positions. Especially sub. I quite liked towers over the preseason so it's hard not to include him but maybe the experience of shaw is needed initially without malceski there.

        Comment

        • wolftone57
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2008
          • 5861

          In answer to Liz; I think Towers and Rohan play differently in that Rohan is very good at the shut down punch whereas Towers will play more body to body. Gazza is more a run straight at the ball, get ball, run like @@@@. Towers on the other hand can finesse quite a bit more and his handball is super. Gaz is not big on HB but kicks more often than not unless he is expecting a give and go. They are both quite good overhead with Gaz a bit better. I don't think they play quite the same game. Towers is better around centre to goal as he is very dangerous if he gets the pill. Gaz is far more dangerous as HB or Winger running from the back.

          In footy you need a mix of players and there has been a lot of talk about Mitchell being too slow. But if you look at some of the best players today, they aren't that fast. Sure Gazza and Fyfe are fast but Selwood, Griffin, Hodge, Mitchell etc are not overly quick. But they are all very damaging, for Hodge & Mitchell refer 2014 GF. Tom Mitchell is a very clever young player, which more than makes up for lack of pace. Be VERY thankful we got him.

          Benny not playing brings up the question, who comes in? Towers, Heeney? I personally would play them both and look to change the backline. Macca would be one of the players to go back. I think Laids could be partially redundant if they decide he is a third tall defender due to Reid. But if they insist on playing him on the smalls then? I think the last defender's spot is between Laids and Shaw. We have Rohan, Macca, Reg, Teddy, Reid, Ramps, Jetts, Laids and Shaw who can all play through the defence. At least one has to go otherwise we end up too defensive. As I say it is between Laids & Shaw, neither of whom have impressed entirely during the NAB. Shaw has actually impressed the least, seemed slow and his disposal was exceedingly poor.

          Comment

          • Auntie.Gerald
            Veterans List
            • Oct 2009
            • 6483

            for me Lloyd to start he is integral to our width of play

            Heeney: Sub given most kids we bring in to Snrs start this way

            but i am beaten on getting this 22 right !!!!!

            B: Smith - Richards - Rampe
            HB: McVeigh - Grundy - Shaw
            C: Lloyd - Mitchell - Hannebery
            HF: K.Jack - Franklin - Cunningham
            FF: Goodes - Tippett - Bird
            Fol: Pkye - Kennedy - Parker
            INT: Reid - Jetta - Rohan
            SUB: Heeney
            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

            Comment

            • Dosser
              Just wild about Harry
              • Mar 2011
              • 1833

              McVeigh and Tippett have yet to have a hit out. You are saying we start with both of them?

              Comment

              • DamY
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2011
                • 1479

                Originally posted by Dosser
                McVeigh and Tippett have yet to have a hit out. You are saying we start with both of them?
                It's Round 1.

                What could go wrong?!

                Comment

                • Nico
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 11343

                  Originally posted by undy
                  Interesting. I always think that Lloyd is fairly soft and virtually disappears in hard games (twice last year v the Hawks). I'd definitely rate Lloyd as less aggressive than Cunningham, but obviously neither are in the league of say Benny McG. Jarred Moore is testament to the fact that you need pace, not just aggression.
                  Are you including the GF re Lloyd. If so have another look. He was one of the few players getting to contests. Cunningham was a genuine lost soul and had no idea who he was on. Was really exploited. Yet Lloyd was taken off at half time. Swans supporters I spoke to after the game agreed he should have stayed on.

                  Lloyd runs to space, plays deep in defence and gets forward often enough. He has far more strings to his bow than Cunningham.
                  http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

                  Comment

                  • aguy
                    Senior Player
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 1324

                    Originally posted by Dosser
                    McVeigh and Tippett have yet to have a hit out. You are saying we start with both of them?
                    Yep. I'm absolutely saying that. Franklin is definitely better with Tippett and Tippett also needs to help pyke. Mcveigh is needed in the backhalf with mal gone. Only reason they haven't played is injury so if they are ready they should definitely both play

                    Comment

                    • aguy
                      Senior Player
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 1324

                      Originally posted by Nico
                      Are you including the GF re Lloyd. If so have another look. He was one of the few players getting to contests. Cunningham was a genuine lost soul and had no idea who he was on. Was really exploited. Yet Lloyd was taken off at half time. Swans supporters I spoke to after the game agreed he should have stayed on.

                      Lloyd runs to space, plays deep in defence and gets forward often enough. He has far more strings to his bow than Cunningham.
                      Cunningham did kick 15 goals last year. Two less than Reid.

                      Comment

                      • Dosser
                        Just wild about Harry
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1833

                        Originally posted by aguy
                        Yep. I'm absolutely saying that. Franklin is definitely better with Tippett and Tippett also needs to help pyke. Mcveigh is needed in the backhalf with mal gone. Only reason they haven't played is injury so if they are ready they should definitely both play
                        Neither player would last a half. It sounds like you want to treat this the same way we treated GWS in round 1 last year. As DamY says, what could possibly go wrong?

                        Comment

                        • undy
                          Fatal error: Allowed memo
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 1231

                          Originally posted by Nico

                          Are you including the GF re Lloyd. If so have another look. He was one of the few players getting to contests. Cunningham was a genuine lost soul and had no idea who he was on. Was really exploited. Yet Lloyd was taken off at half time. Swans supporters I spoke to after the game agreed he should have stayed on.

                          Lloyd runs to space, plays deep in defence and gets forward often enough. He has far more strings to his bow than Cunningham.
                          I was including the GF, but my memories are somewhat blurred and it's not a game I really want to look at again. I'm probably wrong , having read your comparison it's something I'll watch for in future tough games.
                          Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way you'll be a mile away and he'll be shoeless.

                          Comment

                          • aguy
                            Senior Player
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 1324

                            Originally posted by Dosser
                            Neither player would last a half. It sounds like you want to treat this the same way we treated GWS in round 1 last year. As DamY says, what could possibly go wrong?
                            No not being flippant at all. I guess only the coaching and medical staff at the club Know how fit Tippett and mcveigh are. If they are fit then I think they should play. Obviously that's just my opinion.

                            I guess it comes down to whether to play two guys who are coming back from injuries ( albeit minor ones which were sustained during preseason). My understanding is that prior to their injuries they had been doing the usual preseason programme but I am happy to be corrected on that.

                            Comment

                            • ernie koala
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2007
                              • 3251

                              Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                              for me Lloyd to start he is integral to our width of play

                              Heeney: Sub given most kids we bring in to Snrs start this way

                              but i am beaten on getting this 22 right !!!!!

                              B: Smith - Richards - Rampe
                              HB: McVeigh - Grundy - Shaw
                              C: Lloyd - Mitchell - Hannebery
                              HF: K.Jack - Franklin - Cunningham
                              FF: Goodes - Tippett - Bird
                              Fol: Pkye - Kennedy - Parker
                              INT: Reid - Jetta - Rohan
                              SUB: Heeney
                              For me....
                              1) Jack out, I don't want to see a repeat of last year, where he plays(for him timidly) with injured ribs week after week. Get him right, then unleash him.
                              2) Goodes to be sub,he's best suited as a cameo man these days.
                              3) Let Heeney settle in with a full game. I hate it when debutantes have to wait on the bench, then try to prove themselves in 1 quarter....rarely gets results.

                              So:
                              B: Smith - Richards - Rampe
                              HB: Jetta - Grundy - Shaw
                              C: Lloyd - Mitchell - Hannebery
                              HF: Rohan- Franklin - Cunningham
                              FF: Heeney - Tippett - Bird
                              Fol: Pkye - Kennedy - Parker
                              INT: Reid - McVeigh - Towers
                              SUB: Goodes
                              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

                              Comment

                              • Kelpie_X
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 89

                                Originally posted by Untamed Snark
                                So normal conditions then?
                                Yeah normal conditions for the dump that is ANZ

                                Comment

                                Working...