2016 Team

[S.S. Bleeder]

Don't agree at all. Parker was concussed going stupidly, yes I said stupidly Liz, into a pack with Buddy coming the other way. He should not have flown, there was no need for him to even contest. It is about decision making Liz. The kid is too @@@@ing brave but sometimes stupidly. There is a difference between bravery and stupidity and if you can't see that then you are a fool and I don't think you a fool. Kirkie was always able to judge whether he needed to go or not. That is the difference Liz. It's all good to throw yourself at the pack and get the plaudits for bravery but sometimes you really have to say 'Who else is in this contest?' If it turns out your KPP are there then stay the hell out. That is a bloody unwritten law of footy Liz which you may not know about. Small men down when the big men fly.

I'm not saying Parker should never fly or take big marks. What I am saying though is if he is spoiling the big guys or putting himself in needless danger then he should back out. Kirkie used to judge the contest really well. that is my pointt. He was fearless and in most cases he got it right. I don't want to lose a Rohan, Parks, Hannas etc because they banged into Buddy or Tip.

Clearly you've never played the game Wolftone or for that matter any real contact sport otherwise you would never hold that opinion. You can't be 100% aware of your surroundings 100% of the time when yo're playing. How was he to know how close Buddy was. They don't get to view the game unfold like we do in the grandstands.

[Scottee]

Clearly you've never played the game Wolftone or for that matter any real contact sport otherwise you would never hold that opinion. You can't be 100% aware of your surroundings 100% of the time when yo're playing. How was he to know how close Buddy was. They don't get to view the game unfold like we do in the grandstands.

Probably not that simple. I know that some players, in particular Justin Kotschitske, have poor peripheral vision and there have been some horrendous collisions as a result. But if you have good PV it pays to draw a line between bravery and foolishness. I hope poor PV is not an issue for our blokes, because it takes away the choice.

[Auntie.Gerald]

feels like we are majoring in the minors

lets get back to the team 2016 !!!!!!!!!

[aguy]

Now that the list is settled I'm gonna have a go at my best 22. It's a mix of talent and proven players. Some players will be hard done by to miss out. We need to change our game style a bit clearly so that's behind some of my thoughts.

B: Talia, Laidler, Smith
HB: Jones, Grundy, Rampe
C: Hannebery, Kennedy, Mcviegh
HF: Heeney, Reid, Parker
F: Franklin, Tippett, Towers
FOLL: Sinclair, Mitchell, K Jack
INT: Cunningham, Lloyd, Mills, Rohan

Notably absent are Ted Richards and Ben McGlynn. I think age has caught up with both of them and we are a better team without them. Teddy was thrown off his man too often too easily last year and I think talia should develop into teddys role. Laidler is proving solid so I leave him in. Mcglynn has also been caught by age and injury. Add in his poor disposal by foot and he just is too inefficient in the modern game which relies on accurate delivery by foot. Something we need to improve dramatically.

I've moved ramps to half back flank. His speed and thumping long kick is needed coming off the half back line and that is going to allow him to move into the midfield a little which has often been discussed.

I see mills coming on and playing a lot through our midfield rotations and he should play from round 1 to gain as much experience as possible.

Towers was really coming on through the later half of the year and the finals and so he gets my nod as forward flank. Cunningham and Rohan are the other speedsters who will play that role having lost Jetta. Reid needs to play much more forward this year. I think he can provide a real problem for teams this year which the inevitable focus on Tippett and Franklin. He needs to be backed in as a key forward and regain the confidence he had in 2012. Small forwards will be played by midfielders resting forward. Particularly Heeney K Jack and Parker.

So there we have it. I will return to this post through the season and see if my team ever makes it to the field in the exact combination or not

[Gronk]

B: Talia Grundy Smith
HB: Rohan Reid Rampe
C: Hannas Kennedy K. Jack
HF: Heeney Franklin McVeigh
F: Cunningham Tippett Towers
Foll: Sinclare Mitchell Parker
Inter: Mills, Lloyd, Laidler
Sub: B. Jack

My two big omissions are Richards and McGlynn. They are entering the ROK 2014 decline zone, but can still be useful depth players.

[aguy]

Gronk

Our teams are very similar. The only difference is jones versus b Jack.

One thing to remember is no more SUB :-)

[Conor_Dillon]

aguy that might be the best 22 come season's end but I think Richards is an absolute certainty to play in round 1, barring injury of course.

[wolftone57]

Clearly you've never played the game Wolftone or for that matter any real contact sport otherwise you would never hold that opinion. You can't be 100% aware of your surroundings 100% of the time when yo're playing. How was he to know how close Buddy was. They don't get to view the game unfold like we do in the grandstands.

Excuse me played the game from the age of 4. Don't presume to tell me I haven't played. Have you?

Awareness is what differentiates the great players from the rest mate.

No you can't be aware at all times but to fly with the flight of the ball into a pack coming in the opposite direction? Surely every player knows that if you are running with flight in the forward 50 there are going to be players you are going to run into. I know I did. The set ups also dictate the play. Several times I have seen Lukie spoil his own players by coming at ball with the flight. This shows either a lack of awareness or talking on behalf of his teammates. Teammates should have called him out on at least two occasions but didn't and that worried me at the time. I am simply saying there is a problem with his decision making sometimes. Either that or there is a lack of team orientation in our side because there isn't enough talking. Last year I believe that was a problem. In the game against Essendon there was almost silence on the field.

[Conor_Dillon]

B: Smith Grundy Richards

HB: Rampe Talia McVeigh

C: Lloyd Hannebery Rohan

HF: Heeney Franklin Reid

F: McGlynn Tippett K.Jack

Fol: Sinclair Kennedy Parker

Int: Towers Mitchell Cunningham Jones



Possible reserves team.

B: Laidler X.Richards Marsh

HB: Leonardis Allir Newman

C: Hiscox Mills B.Jack

HF: Rose Davis Dawson

F: Papley Nankervis Derrickx

Fol: Naismith Hewett Robinson

Int: Foote, Melican, O'Riordan, Murray

Emg: Galloway, Johnson

Looks like we're going to have a reasonably raw reserves team this year...plenty of x-factor about it though!

[aguy]

aguy that might be the best 22 come season's end but I think Richards is an absolute certainty to play in round 1, barring injury of course.

I agree with you that Richards will start the season. I'm predicting we will need to see a ROK like situation happen though. For me it would be a better team. As much as I love teddy and also ROK I think the time is up

[Conor_Dillon]

I agree with you that Richards will start the season. I'm predicting we will need to see a ROK like situation happen though. For me it would be a better team. As much as I love teddy and also ROK I think the time is up

Won't be a bad problem to have because it will mean that a young KPD in the reserves is banging the door down.

I'd like to see Talia and Grundy take the two key forwards and have Richards play on a third-tall...allowing him to zone off and become more of a third-man-up type spoiler...ala Josh Gibson.

[S.S. Bleeder]

Excuse me played the game from the age of 4. Don't presume to tell me I haven't played. Have you?

Awareness is what differentiates the great players from the rest mate.

No you can't be aware at all times but to fly with the flight of the ball into a pack coming in the opposite direction? Surely every player knows that if you are running with flight in the forward 50 there are going to be players you are going to run into. I know I did. The set ups also dictate the play. Several times I have seen Lukie spoil his own players by coming at ball with the flight. This shows either a lack of awareness or talking on behalf of his teammates. Teammates should have called him out on at least two occasions but didn't and that worried me at the time. I am simply saying there is a problem with his decision making sometimes. Either that or there is a lack of team orientation in our side because there isn't enough talking. Last year I believe that was a problem. In the game against Essendon there was almost silence on the field.

From the age of four till when? And was it at a reasonable level? Yes, I played from about 11 through till 20 at a reasonable level. I find it difficult to believe that anyone who has played the game at a reasonable level can be critical of a player getting crunched and accusing him of "playing stupidly". Maybe you'd better have a look at the replay; Swans pull off miraculous comeback to beat Bombers - AFL.com.au. It would be impossible for him to be aware that Buddy was coming unless he took his eyes off the ball. If anything; you should be critical of Buddy for not calling it. And no, it wasn't a set play, it was a blind kick forward by Grundy.

[0918330512]

From the age of four till when? And was it at a reasonable level? Yes, I played from about 11 through till 20 at a reasonable level. I find it difficult to believe that anyone who has played the game at a reasonable level can be critical of a player getting crunched and accusing him of "playing stupidly". Maybe you'd better have a look at the replay; Swans pull off miraculous comeback to beat Bombers - AFL.com.au. It would be impossible for him to be aware that Buddy was coming unless he took his eyes off the ball. If anything; you should be critical of Buddy for not calling it. And no, it wasn't a set play, it was a blind kick forward by Grundy.

Who did you play for & at what level? 11-17 is pretty much junior footy. And to be honest, who really cares? Even people who haven't played any football at all are entitled to an opinion.

[aguy]

Thanks for the opinions everyone.

But junior footy may be best discussed elsewhere ?

Maybe we could get back to thoughts on the 2016 team?

[Conor_Dillon]

Maybe we could get back to thoughts on the 2016 team?