draft !

[Ludwig]

You should read the thread about Tyrell Mayfield, because when this kid joins the club, the other 17 out there can be tortoises and it won't matter.

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Scenarios ( I hope my maths is alright)

SWANS AFL DRAFT 2015 Points - 2198

The draft depends on ??.

Pick 1 - Mills 2400 ? All 2015 Picks/Points and Swans have to burn 202 points from 2016 Draft. No Dunkley and another rookie upgraded ? NAISMITH and ???

Pick 2 ? Mills 2014 - All 2015 Picks/Points and Swans have to burn 16 points from 2016 Draft. No Dunkley and another rookie upgraded and ???

Pick 3 ? Mills 1787 ? Picks 33, 36, 37 and partial 44, Swans will have a live pick at 54 and most likely upgraded to mid to late 40?s and another selection for us appears around pick 62 before other Academy picks with Brisbane (Schache with pick 2) burning a lot of picks from 38 to 42 if Keays, Hipwood and Chol if there are early picks and GWS burning picks for Hopper, Kennedy and maybe Himmelberg.
Swans - 288 points plus 123 (411) from Mills pick. Draft picks upgraded depending on Academy selection points. (Can now match pick 31 for Dunkley or later without any upgrade)

Pick 4 ? Mills 1644 ? same as before Pick 3 but another selection for us appears around pick 50. (Can now match pick 26 for Dunkley or later without any upgrade)
Swans - 288 points plus 266 (544) from Mills pick

Pick 5 ? Mills 1502 ? Now just picks 33, 36, 37 and another selection around pick 70.

The above only regards to Dunkley and if Dunks Jnr does not select us or a early pick that will not be matched, then what can we do?

Picks 1 and 2 means no other selection with NAISMITH and other Rookie upgrade.

Picks 3 and 4 means next pick is 54, likely upgraded to about 45-49. What?s available?

Pick 5 means next pick is 44 likely upgraded to mid to late 30s? What?s available?

Just some contenders in a Phantom draft

25. Nick O?Kearney ? Calder Cannons (Midfielder 181cm/70kgs)
26. Luke Partington ? Norwood (Midfielder 182cm/76kgs)
27. Aidyn Johnson ? Bendigo Pioneers (Forward/Midfielder 185cm/75kgs)
28. Bailey Rice ? Dandenong Stingrays (Midfielder 185cm/81kgs) (F/S)
29. Tom Cole ? Bendigo Pioneers (Half back/Midfield 186cm/77kgs)
30. Will Snelling ? West Adelaide (Midfielder 177cms/68kgs)
31. Tom Wilson ? Sandringham Dragons (Forward 194cm/69kgs)
32. Wayne Milera ? Central Districts (Wingman 185cm/75kgs) (will go early)
33. Wylie Buzza ? Redland (Forward 198cm/97kgs) (Lions Acad) (Not nominated)
34. Daniel Rioli ? North Ballarat Rebels (Half Forward/Half Back 180cm/66kgs)
35. Greg Clark ? Subiaco (Midfielder 193cm/82kgs)
36. Dylan Smith ? Swan Districts (Key Forward 198cm/82kgs)
37. Tim Sullivan ? Glenelg (Ruckman 200cm/91kgs)
38. Liam Jeffs ? Eastern Ranges (Midfielder 193cm/80kgs)
39. Mitchell Hibberd ? Clarence (Half back 191cm/85kgs)
40. Jock Cornell ? Mangoplah/GWS academy (Forward 188cm/84kgs)
41. Ryan Clarke ? Eastern Ranges (Midfielder186cm/85kgs)
42. Stephen Tahana ? North Adelaide (Half back 183cm/78kgs)
43. Matthew Flynn ? Narrandera/GWS academy (Ruckman 201cm/101kgs)
44. Ben Jarman ? North Adelaide (Midfielder 173cm/64kgs)
45. Jack Silvagni ? Oakleigh Chargers (Forward 191cm/81kgs)
46. Connor West ? Southport/Gold Coast academy (Half Forward 185cm/79kgs)
47. Kade Stewart ? South Fremantle (Midfielder 180cms/67kgs)
48. Jake Lovett ? Dandenong Stingrays (Midfielder 182cm/81kgs)
49. Mabior Chol ? Yeronga/Brisbane academy (Forward 198cm/79kgs)
50. Jordan Matera ? Sandringham Dragons (Midfielder 182cm/83kgs)
51. Jake Bradley ? (Forward 176cm/66kgs)
52. Kyle Galloway ? Deniliquin (Ruckman 206cm/105kgs)
53. Keiran Agius ? North Adelaide (Forward 187cm/84kgs)
54. Harvey Daniher ? Calder Cannons (Forward/Defender 190cm/86kgs) GWS (Not nominated)
55. Matthew Allen ? Glenelg (Key Forward 194cm/97kgs)
56. Gach Nyuon ? Dandenong Stingrays (Ruckman 202cm/83kgs)
57. Kieran Lovell ? Kingston (Midfielder 174cms/76kgs) (Swans spoke to Lovell)
Another 15 centimetres taller and he would be in the top 10 without a doubt. A natural footballer who gets his own ball and uses it brilliantly. Elite pace and fitness for this stocky, hard working ball magnet who could easily develop into a gun. Wouldn?t surprise to see him go mid second round.
58. Tom Wallis ? Calder Cannons (Midfielder 183cm/72kgs)
59. Alex Morgan ? Oakleigh Chargers (Defender 181cm/80kgs)
60. Darcy MacPherson ? Northern Knights (Forward 177cm/69kgs)

What are we looking for?

[Levii3]

Isn't Wayne Milera a top 10 or 15 prospect? Rioli will go first round maybe early second Hibberd also early second round.

If we did speak to Lovell he would be a good addition he's got speed agility goal sense

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Unfortunately I couldn't find the AFL Top 50 and trawled through to find the next best. Milera could be a Top 10. Rioli was just a 20-40 player but the name and combine results have rocketed up. Hawks might him at 15 or 18.

[liz]

We have to pick at least three players, and only one rookie upgrade can count towards this. In any case, with the delisting of Marsh, we will enter the draft with 34 on the senior list and we have to have at least 38. So that means at least four players to be added, of which Naismith will be one.

[WauchopeAnalyst]

We have to pick at least three players, and only one rookie upgrade can count towards this. In any case, with the delisting of Marsh, we will enter the draft with 34 on the senior list and we have to have at least 38. So that means at least four players to be added, of which Naismith will be one.

Liz


Does that mean that if MILLS goes 1st pick, and we match it, then will still have to pick up 2 more players at pick 90 or somehting like that? Also only 1 rookie upgrade counts for the draft but can you do upgrade others and then count them, e.g. NEWMAN, on the senior list meaning only 2 picks with NAISMITH.

[Ampersand]

We can still add players from the PSD or delisted players.

[Ludwig]

It's a bit difficult to work out where our later picks will end up. There are so many permutations, especially with places moving up to fill the slots left by multiple academy picks.

I also like Kieran Lovell as a late pick. Oleg Markov, the son of pole vaulter Dmitri, was passed over last year. He's a tall skinny kid who's a good athlete and can kick the ball a long way. Reminds me a bit of Dean Towers, so perhaps we have enough of that. Mitch Brown, the former Geelong defender, may also be a good late pickup to further add to our key defender depth.

[barry]

Whats the difference between a "depth player" and a "list clogger" ?

[liz]

Liz


Does that mean that if MILLS goes 1st pick, and we match it, then will still have to pick up 2 more players at pick 90 or somehting like that? Also only 1 rookie upgrade counts for the draft but can you do upgrade others and then count them, e.g. NEWMAN, on the senior list meaning only 2 picks with NAISMITH.

We can still add players from the PSD or delisted players.

Yep, we can add players after the ND to reach the minimum list size, as Ampersand points out.

I believe we still have to make a minimum of three selections in the ND, of which Naismith can count as one but the other two have to be genuine draftees. That said, we could re-draft Marsh in the ND and he would count towards the two.

[Ludwig]

Whats the difference between a "depth player" and a "list clogger" ?

I a depth player has a year left on his contract.

I believe we still have to make a minimum of three selections in the ND, of which Naismith can count as one but the other two have to be genuine draftees. That said, we could re-draft Marsh in the ND and he would count towards the two.

If we redraft Marsh in the ND does that mean he automatically gets the standard 2 year contract? Or does that apply only to first time players drafted?

[liz]

Dunno! He is allowed to stipulate terms, if he wishes. Not sure if he's allowed to state that he'll accept a one year contract.

[chammond]

Yep, we can add players after the ND to reach the minimum list size, as Ampersand points out.

I believe we still have to make a minimum of three selections in the ND, of which Naismith can count as one but the other two have to be genuine draftees. That said, we could re-draft Marsh in the ND and he would count towards the two.

If we're going to take Adcock, he'll be picked up next week won't he? i.e. before the ND? Then we'll only need to take Mills, Dunkley and Naismith in the ND.

[YvonneH]

Article in the daily telegraph (subscribers only so can't access) DEMONS SET TO SPOIL BOMBERS PARTY talks about them taking the best midfielder for the 2nd year in a row (with pick 3 I think). Who are they talking about, surely not Mills as everyone knows we will take him no matter the cost. Does that mean they will not bid pick 3 for Mills. More information anyone.

[Conor_Dillon]

Article in the daily telegraph (subscribers only so can't access) DEMONS SET TO SPOIL BOMBERS PARTY talks about them taking the best midfielder for the 2nd year in a row (with pick 3 I think). Who are they talking about, surely not Mills as everyone knows we will take him no matter the cost. Does that mean they will not bid pick 3 for Mills. More information anyone.

Referring to Darcy Parish...he's the 2nd best mid in the draft after Mills, but he's the best available mid for Melbourne.