Home Sweet Home @ the SCG

[DamY]

You cant discount the Eagles as an outlier, and then include collingwood.
Collingwood is the biggest drawing club in the land. Doesnt matter where they are on the ladder.
30,000 to them should be ringing alarm bells everywhere, especially as there is not the boycott factor of the SCG that a large band of Swans fans had against ANZ (present company excluded)
An this easter excuse is a furphy. Doesnt seem to impact any other host city.

Oh Barry. Love your passion but this whole cherry-picking of facts is tiresome. Collingwood are down on members as well, that is fact. And Easter is always going to be a challenge in NSW because we only have 50k state members across 2 clubs, SA and WA have 100-120k members each, and just with Hawthorn, Collingwood and Richmond there are 200k members in VIC.

Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na
Barry give it up, give it up, Barry give it up

[barry]

According to Pridman, we have 1.2m fans. Therefore Easter is an excuse for a poor crowd, not a reason.
Weve had good easter crowds in the past for marque games, and the pies is a marque game.

Therefore the only reason for poor crowd is the venue, and mainly its location.
There are not enough people in the eastern suburbs to support an AFL team on their own.

[bungwahl]

According to Pridman, we have 1.2m fans. Therefore Easter is an excuse for a poor crowd, not a reason.
Weve had good easter crowds in the past for marque games, and the pies is a marque game.

Therefore the only reason for poor crowd is the venue, and mainly its location.
There are not enough people in the eastern suburbs to support an AFL team on their own.

It was a great turn out for a round 1 crowd - that's undeniable.

[chalbilto]

[QUOTE=barry;691725]According to Pridman, we have 1.2m fans. Therefore Easter is an excuse for a poor crowd, not a reason.
Weve had good easter crowds in the past for marque games, and the pies is a marque game.

Therefore the only reason for poor crowd is the venue, and mainly its location.
There are not enough people in the eastern suburbs to support an AFL team on their own.[/QUOTE]

Barry your statement is correct however, newsflash Barry the Swans have fans from all over Sydney and surrounds viz, northern beaches, north Shore, inner south west, inner west, Liverpool Campbelltown & surrounds, Woolongong and South Coast, Southern Highlands & Canberra, western suburbs, Blue Mountains, Hills district who attend games at the SCG. There are also fans from interstate who also attend.
Barry you are passionate with your love child ANZ but very churlish with your dislike for the true home the SCG. You really should give it up and suffer in silence otherwise you may end up like "he who should not be named M..."

[Danzar]

Sorry about my brain explosion. You shouldn't have to read it. If I get kicked off this forum, I'll wear that. My fault. And for the record, I'm ok with differing opinions, but not when sarcasm is involved; it's a weak method of attack ... Or playing the man. That's what was at the heart of my objection.

Not a kickable offence (in isolation) Markus and good of you to note as you have.

[neilfws]

Weve had good easter crowds in the past for marque games, and the pies is a marque game.

As pointed out already, this year was our best home crowd for a round 1 Easter weekend, and second best home crowd for any round 1, since 2000. In fact, it's the 5th highest Swans/SMFC home crowd for round 1 of all time.

You can argue that you think it should be higher, but the reality is that it is high in historical context.

[Industrial Fan]

Interesting to see that ANZ will be installing a roof now. I think it makes sense on both sides to permanently use ANZ as a rectangular oval.

Without dredging through the whole issue again, I think its a win win.

Also FWIW, through my work I know that was a real item on the agenda a few years ago but has only been given the go ahead recently.

[barry]

[QUOTE=chalbilto;691731]

According to Pridman, we have 1.2m fans. Therefore Easter is an excuse for a poor crowd, not a reason.
Weve had good easter crowds in the past for marque games, and the pies is a marque game.

Therefore the only reason for poor crowd is the venue, and mainly its location.
There are not enough people in the eastern suburbs to support an AFL team on their own.[/QUOTE]

Barry your statement is correct however, newsflash Barry the Swans have fans from all over Sydney and surrounds viz, northern beaches, north Shore, inner south west, inner west, Liverpool Campbelltown & surrounds, Woolongong and South Coast, Southern Highlands & Canberra, western suburbs, Blue Mountains, Hills district who attend games at the SCG. There are also fans from interstate who also attend.
Barry you are passionate with your love child ANZ but very churlish with your dislike for the true home the SCG. You really should give it up and suffer in silence otherwise you may end up like "he who should not be named M..."

Fans were built outside of the eastern suburbs by playing games on those areas. A lot of the west and canberra was influenced by Manuka and ANZ games.
If it was a good idea to go out there and build a fan base, conversely it must be a bad idea to stop supplying that fan base.

[bungwahl]

[QUOTE=barry;691747]

Fans were built outside of the eastern suburbs by playing games on those areas. A lot of the west and canberra was influenced by Manuka and ANZ games.
If it was a good idea to go out there and build a fan base, conversely it must be a bad idea to stop supplying that fan base.

I'm originally from the Central Coast and got in to the game when it was purely based at the SCG. It was a longer journey to the SCG, but the location is so much better for pre and post game activities. My coast friends don't attend games at ANZ because it's too far from the city. Add to that the ground dimensions being much too small for entertaining football, and you can see why everyone loves the SCG. Everyone else, anyway...

[jono2707]

[QUOTE=barry;691747]

Fans were built outside of the eastern suburbs by playing games on those areas. A lot of the west and canberra was influenced by Manuka and ANZ games.
If it was a good idea to go out there and build a fan base, conversely it must be a bad idea to stop supplying that fan base.

Not wanting to fan the flames of this pointless argument, but the supply of AFL football to the fan base in Sydney's west has not been stopped. It has been increased substantially by the AFL's funding for an entirely new team catering to that area. We have, and will continue to, lose some fans from that area as there is now a team directly representing that part of town.

We are now looking to strengthen our core supporter base as well as attract new fans from all over Sydney, and one can only assume that the club has thought that the best way to do this is focus on our main home ground.

[bungwahl]

I noticed we're up to 46,905 members this season too!

[Mug Punter]

Interesting to see that ANZ will be installing a roof now. I think it makes sense on both sides to permanently use ANZ as a rectangular oval.

Without dredging through the whole issue again, I think its a win win.

Also FWIW, through my work I know that was a real item on the agenda a few years ago but has only been given the go ahead recently.

I thought what they would do was knock down and rebuild one of the major grandstands or move one over (probably not possible from an engineering perspective.

It seems though, what they are planning on doing in is building a new bowl inside the ground that will rise a lot sharper up to right near the current second level. It will be almost 50 meters closer to the action and much steeper offering better views all round. Plus it will be covered.

For mine this seems a great idea for the rectangular code users, they'll effectively have a little boutique stadium in the bowl so for regular matches they just use that plus the corporate facilities. And for the major events, where people accept being a long way from the action they can bring the remaining 40,000 + seats into play.

I have it on good authority that the master plan of Mr Baird was to build the $1.2Bn monument to the SCG Trust and then when it was finished sell ANZ for land value to pay for the inner city development. To knock down a perfectly good stadium just to appease that old boy crowd of Alan Jones et al. And we'd have had one less stadium than we started with. Totally insane.

That ANZ refurb looks good, OK it can't play AFL there anymore and that leaves one particular person in Sydney disappointed but it will be a major improvement for the rectangular ground sports.

I believe that the push now is to increase the pot to $1.4 bn and plait it 50/50 between Homebush and ANZ. I challenge anyone to say to the SCG Trust can't get Allianz up to scratch with $700m

[Industrial Fan]

The whole SCG precinct is going to be redeveloped as well starting with the (now stupid) footbridge that was seemingly a white elephant but will join up to the light rail and other expansions. There are a few discussions to pinch land from Kippax lake which is anyones guess if it will go ahead, but seems thats what the State govt is working towards.

[bungwahl]

The whole SCG precinct is going to be redeveloped as well starting with the (now stupid) footbridge that was seemingly a white elephant but will join up to the light rail and other expansions. There are a few discussions to pinch land from Kippax lake which is anyones guess if it will go ahead, but seems thats what the State govt is working towards.

I started using the footbridge towards the end of last season - walking up from the southern end of Central via a couple of pubs in Surry Hills. I think the most annoying part is the loooong spiral climb on and off, although I assume this is to cater for wheelchairs so it's hard to complain too much. My engineer friend did comment that the bridge is ridiculously over engineered for foot traffic though.

[penga]

My mates and I came down from the Central Coast, as we normally do..

Would rather sit in 3 hour delayed traffic to the SCG than boring Stade de Silence.