Changes for Rnd 5 V West Coast

[swansrob]

Lol. Proven finals performer vs untried rookies.
Is that the definition of optimism?

"Proven finals performer" doesn't mean a thing if he can't help us get there by performing during the regular season

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Hi Liz, Matimbo, Meg and Longmire. I obviously think very differently about what McVeigh.

Since the 2014 GF Macca give us virtually nothing, except going forward against Geelong last year, maybe the GF crushed him, but Longmire must love Macca and Kizza last year as they were 5th and 3rd in the B&F. I have no idea how that happens. Getting votes for set ups from the coaches makes it like to a man crush betweem captain and coach.

We have so many senior players we dont need more to direct, or pointing????, all the time, we need performers. Kizza is playing near his level but McVeigh never appears to influence the game.

All I can do is watch games and call it as i see it. Jones has issues but we need fit, fast players like him not a chess coach on field. Give us on field performance that helps the time or get another player that will add to the team.

Macca has to play forward nowhere else.

The game is different, speed and individual fighters are required. Default position is attacking and then defending frentically only Freo and us are in the defence default position and we have much more talent then them.

For example:

Reg to JJK fair and even but JJK is quicker.
Ted to Darling, unless they bomb it in, Ted will get towed around by Darling and never threat Darling and Darling defends very well in the I50.

Option: Ramps to Darling. Fair, Ramps has the speed to run with him and Laidler can came over and help when required.

Not attacking posters but history is yesterday not today or tomorrow. ????

[RogueSwan]

Lol. Proven final performer vs untried rookies.
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Fixed it for you.

I am all for giving Towers the benefit of the doubt until Rohan (who still has to prove himself too) is healthy but Dean needs to be either scoring or tackling, preferably both. This is not something he has done yet.

[bungwahl]

Hi Liz, Matimbo, Meg and Longmire. I obviously think very differently about what McVeigh.

Since the 2014 GF Macca give us virtually nothing, except going forward against Geelong last year, maybe the GF crushed him, but Longmire must love Macca and Kizza last year as they were 5th and 3rd in the B&F. I have no idea how that happens. Getting votes for set ups from the coaches makes it like to a man crush betweem captain and coach.

We have so many senior players we dont need more to direct, or pointing??, all the time, we need performers. Kizza is playing near his level but McVeigh never appears to influence the game.

All I can do is watch games and call it as i see it. Jones has issues but we need fit, fast players like him not a chess coach on field. Give us on field performance that helps the time or get another player that will add to the team.

Macca has to play forward nowhere else.

The game is different, speed and individual fighters are required. Default position is attacking and then defending frentically only Freo and us are in the defence default position and we have much more talent then them.

For example:

Reg to JJK fair and even but JJK is quicker.
Ted to Darling, unless they bomb it in, Ted will get towed around by Darling and never threat Darling and Darling defends very well in the I50.

Option: Ramps to Darling. Fair, Ramps has the speed to run with him and Laidler can came over and help when required.

Not attacking posters but history is yesterday not today or tomorrow. ??

That's quite an interesting position on McVeigh. I know it's often frowned upon to question club legends, but I think we should be open to discussing such things in this type of forum.

I'm split on McVeigh - he's smart, but he's slow. For a few years now he has been the half back defensive general and provided us with above average disposal out of defence. Last week he looked very rusty and his disposal was not up to scratch, which is to be expected first game back from injury. Personally I think he'll remain in his current role - the way the game is played these days requires intense forward pressure and McVeigh doesn't have the pace for that role.

[Ludwig]

Proven finals performer vs untried rookies.
Is that the definition of optimism?

And what particular proven performance of Towers are you alluding to? Could it be his 12 possession, nil goals masterpiece against NM in the semifinal? Yes, that was a game winner, except we lost. Perhaps he's just an ANZ specialist. If we make the finals this year we can bring him in for a cameo there.

Since the 2014 GF Macca give us virtually nothing, except going forward against Geelong last year, maybe the GF crushed him, but Longmire must love Macca and Kizza last year as they were 5th and 3rd in the B&F. I have no idea how that happens. Getting votes for set ups from the coaches makes it like to a man crush betweem captain and coach.

Statistically Macca was very good last year, not that stats are the be all an end all. And Champion Data keep their 'pointing' stats a secret except for premium subscribers. His dreamtime average score was second best of his career, just a tad behind 2013, so not surprised his season was rated well. Although it wasn't specified as to the type of knee surgery he had, I'm assuming it was a meniscus cleanup. You would have to think that he carried some knee pain throughout the season as you can play with this type of injury. Now that he's had the surgery, I think he should have a very good year. Given how well players like Sam Mitchell are doing, I think we might find a few more quality seasons left in McVeigh.

[WauchopeAnalyst]

If Macca played forward and helps a bit in mids I would pick him every week. He needs just about a KPD to quiet him down. He will kill the flankers/pockets and get 2 goals and several assists most games.

[barry]

Mchack is slow. In a team that's slow. In a backline that is slower. We cannot afford to play mitchell and mchack in the same team. 1 slow small man you can live with .two and you can ?iss a flag goodbye.
Mitchell is more value to the team than mchack.

[Swansongster]

Dear Baz. Clearly not watching if you think Mitchell and McVeigh aren't in our best 22 when fit.

[liz]

I wouldn't have thought McVeigh is slow. I'd have thought him "average" pace for his size.

If we can only carry one slow player in the team, we have some tough choices to make - we can only choose one of Hanners, JPK, Parker and Mitchell (if we take McVeigh as the benchmark for "slow").

[royboy42]

Mchack is slow. In a team that's slow. In a backline that is slower. We cannot afford to play mitchell and mchack in the same team. 1 slow small man you can live with .two and you can ?iss a flag goodbye.
Mitchell is more value to the team than mchack.

McHack...still? Between ANZ and out of date nicknames, you're losing touch with 2016 Barry

[Ludwig]

Mchack is slow. In a team that's slow. In a backline that is slower. We cannot afford to play mitchell and mchack in the same team. 1 slow small man you can live with .two and you can ?iss a flag goodbye.
Mitchell is more value to the team than mchack.

You mean like, for example, Sam Mitchell and Luke Hodge?

And it's amazing how rarely McVeigh gets tackled, considering how 'slow' he is.

[ugg]

In George and Sinkers
Out Nanka and Deano

[707]

In George and Sinkers
Out Nanka and Deano

No surprises there. George only had the one poor game and bounced back last week in the NEAFL so logical to replace the disappointing Towers.

Reckon Rose will be ruing his down game last week after tearing it up the previous few weeks. Glad they are rewarding good NEAFL form, puts everyone on notice both seniors without established form and NEAFL players to keep up good performances. Have a good one George and show them what they're missing Sinclair.

An unfortunate in is number 23 umpire Robert Findlayson, can be relied on to burn you with a few poor decisions.

[ugg]

Emg Jones Nankervis Rose

[frankee]

Teddy to remind everyone why he is still playing in this one.