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  • Mel_C
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 4470

    #16
    Has there been any word on whether Sinclair will be ok for next week?

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    • ugg
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      • Jan 2003
      • 15962

      #17
      Originally posted by Mel_C
      Has there been any word on whether Sinclair will be ok for next week?
      Longmire said the doctors told him Sinclair would be right for the Eagles
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      • Doctor
        Bay 29
        • Sep 2003
        • 2757

        #18
        WCE have a big forward line so I wonder if the selection panel are considering adding more size and giving Allir a run. It would be bold against such strong opposition but, in the absence of Reid (who we missed last night) and Talia it might be an option.

        Otherwise, Sinclair back in for the unlucky Nankervis. I suspect the others will get another chance unless they are deemed to be a bit sore after a tough first month.
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        • RogueSwan
          McVeigh for Brownlow
          • Apr 2003
          • 4602

          #19
          I'm not too worried about Ted. He played on a very good, big, mobile forward who was given great delivery at times. We have really missed having an LRT type to help down back and I don't think Reid is the answer
          "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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          • elastic
            On the Rookie List
            • Feb 2010
            • 28

            #20
            I think Aliir can definitely bring something valuable to our side. He has good disposal and can break lines with his run. Only question mark at this stage is his one on one defending. I think Ted deserves a couple more games to find his feet though it's looking like this year might be his last.

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            • mcs
              Travelling Swannie!!
              • Jul 2007
              • 8149

              #21
              Originally posted by RogueSwan
              I'm not too worried about Ted. He played on a very good, big, mobile forward who was given great delivery at times. We have really missed having an LRT type to help down back and I don't think Reid is the answer
              Ted will need a bit of time to get back into it, but he looked slow and old yesterday. Once upon a time he could get away with playing behind his man like he does - now I'm not so sure. And sadly his disposal so far this season has been awful at best. He deserves a good chance to show he still has it, but I wonder if the end is closer than we hoped for him.

              Totally agree we miss that LRT type player.
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              • Beerman
                Regular in the Side
                • Oct 2010
                • 823

                #22
                Originally posted by jetts32
                Keep Papley and Mcglynn in the same team. Both have great defensive pressure in the forward line but Benny also pinch hits in the midfield. So to keep Papley in the forward line is a good idea I think.

                OUT: Nankervis, Robinson
                In: Sinclair, Jones

                I did like Nankervis tonight, great follow up work and tackles, couple of good grabs but Sinclair being out tonight could've really made the difference.
                I thought Robinson was good and is improving every game. He definitely stays in my book.

                OUT: Nankervis, Papley
                IN: Sinclair, Rose

                Nankervis was OK but Sinclair offers a lot more. Papley learnt a lot about the difference in pressure when you're playing a top-4 contender vs. bottom-4 contenders. He will improve, but I think Rose deserves a chance.

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                • swans
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 103

                  #23
                  Originally posted by mcs
                  Ted will need a bit of time to get back into it, but he looked slow and old yesterday. Once upon a time he could get away with playing behind his man like he does - now I'm not so sure. And sadly his disposal so far this season has been awful at best. He deserves a good chance to show he still has it, but I wonder if the end is closer than we hoped for him.

                  Totally agree we miss that LRT type player.
                  I also posted that LRT type is the missing link player role we have not filled at this time. The only player we have that can build into that role is abe davis. he has the build and shows good signs early in the pre session that he can play forward and back and he is a goal kicker not certain how far away his is on selection or his defences skills have improved to a point of being selected but I would like to see him given go before half way to add debt into the swing man role.

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                  • graemed
                    Swans2win
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 410

                    #24
                    Saturday night's game proved that our ability to curb teams that run aggressively forward is lacking. Last year we were found out by the Bulldogs, Hawks and Eagles amongst those contending for the flag
                    We cope well with teams that turn the ball over or have deficiencies in disposals but if teams have high precision they can get around us. Why?

                    Unfortunately, I think it's comes down to our strengths, we are contested ball team and our mid-field getting first hand on the pill can make up for many other faults as was evidenced by the first quarter. When Adelaide even up the clearances we found ourselves with a defence under undue pressure. Winning the clearances becomes a priority but more than that having the pill in the hands of good decision makers with the ability to hit targets is gold.

                    Jarrad McVeigh is out best decision maker and amongst the best kicks to advantage in the team. Parker is next best followed by ... Kennedy (??).

                    I thought we played great on the night and were desperately unlucky. I don't think McVeigh should have been selected, Smith was pushed, Rampe was suckered a couple of times and Papley could have kicked better. These things happen from time to time.

                    This overlooks the fact that we were the better team in the first quarter and played well against quality opposition all night in spite of IMHO picking a side that was not equipped to serve the two masters of clearance winners or speed to and from contests.

                    Jones must come back into defence McVeigh must go forward, Heeney sh have a more prolonged run in the mids as must Mills. Pragmatically, West Coast look to have too much speed if we miss targets no matter what team we select.

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                    • bloodsbigot
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 813

                      #25
                      Thought the umpiring was piss poor for both sides but favouring Adelaide.

                      It's a relief we have a really good record against West Coast in Sydney, but those away games are the ones we need to win.
                      Last edited by bloodsbigot; 18 April 2016, 01:50 AM.

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                      • undy
                        Fatal error: Allowed memo
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1231

                        #26
                        Originally posted by longmile
                        Can't see Richard getting better/returning to old form
                        I can - he's done it before and is possibly a little underdone given his late start to the season.
                        Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way you'll be a mile away and he'll be shoeless.

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                        • Chilcott
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 595

                          #27
                          Sinclair and Jones in for Nankervis and Towers.

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                          • bungwahl
                            Warming the Bench
                            • May 2009
                            • 173

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Chilcott
                            Sinclair and Jones in for Nankervis and Towers.
                            I'd be tempted to chop McGlynn for Hewett/Rose too, but we don't want too many changes. I know McGlynn has credits in the bank, but if we're playing Papley as the small forward then I don't think McGlynn suits our midfield. He's short, average paced, and has been poor at times with disposal. Hewett was unlucky to be dropped and Rose has been tearing up ressies.

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                            • Captain
                              Captain of the Side
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 3602

                              #29
                              We are badly missing Reid who surely must come in as a key defender.

                              Only change for this week would be:

                              In: Sinclair
                              Out: Nankervis

                              Need to give Papley another run to see what he is made of.

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                              • mcs
                                Travelling Swannie!!
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 8149

                                #30
                                Originally posted by graemed
                                Saturday night's game proved that our ability to curb teams that run aggressively forward is lacking. Last year we were found out by the Bulldogs, Hawks and Eagles amongst those contending for the flag
                                We cope well with teams that turn the ball over or have deficiencies in disposals but if teams have high precision they can get around us. Why?

                                Unfortunately, I think it's comes down to our strengths, we are contested ball team and our mid-field getting first hand on the pill can make up for many other faults as was evidenced by the first quarter. When Adelaide even up the clearances we found ourselves with a defence under undue pressure. Winning the clearances becomes a priority but more than that having the pill in the hands of good decision makers with the ability to hit targets is gold.

                                Jarrad McVeigh is out best decision maker and amongst the best kicks to advantage in the team. Parker is next best followed by ... Kennedy (??).

                                I thought we played great on the night and were desperately unlucky. I don't think McVeigh should have been selected, Smith was pushed, Rampe was suckered a couple of times and Papley could have kicked better. These things happen from time to time.

                                This overlooks the fact that we were the better team in the first quarter and played well against quality opposition all night in spite of IMHO picking a side that was not equipped to serve the two masters of clearance winners or speed to and from contests.

                                Jones must come back into defence McVeigh must go forward, Heeney sh have a more prolonged run in the mids as must Mills. Pragmatically, West Coast look to have too much speed if we miss targets no matter what team we select.
                                A good summary there Graeme - I'd argue our key fault, even against teams that can trouble us as you outline here, is that we simply don't kick to advantage enough into our forward line. Give it a year or two, and hopefully getting a few more elite kicks into our team (or improving the skills of what we got) and that might change - but it is a real Achilles heal. If we had skills commensurate with those of the Hawks in that regard, we would of won fairly comfortably on Saturday night, for what really hurt us is that, too often, when we have the ball and time to deliver it into our forward line, we butchered any chance we had to get a result out of it by having poor delivery into the forward line. Get a few of those poor kicks right into the forward line and the result would have been different.

                                That doesn't take away from a pretty good performance, at a ground and against an opposition where not many teams will take the points (assuming their early season form holds up).
                                "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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