Rnd 10 Match Day Thread. Sydney V North Melb. SCG. 7.50 pm.

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Coaches votes

9 Hannebery
8 Mitchell
7 Kennedy
2 Cunnington
2 McVeigh
2 Tippett

I am sure that there will be some discussion about the votes.

Who got 1 and 1 and which ones got the 2s and from which coach and why????

Dan got 5 and 4 and Tom got a 5 but get only got a 3 and JPK got a 4 and 3.

I have not idea how one or two coaches thought that McVeigh should get votes.

(No hate from me about McVeigh but he was terrible in defence and fumbling and missing targets, very good forward or forward of centre)







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[RogueSwan]

One point on McVeigh, on the Grandstand podcast they interviewed Horse. He reminded the commentators, and myself, that Macca had a knee operation at the end of last year and did not have a full pre-season. The coaches knew he wouldn't be at his best straight away and, and I am obviously making an assumption here, that there was no value in putting him in the reserves to get him up to match fitness.

[barry]

Hard to understand why he didn't play a game or two in the 2s as we were flying before his return. Didn't we drop jones for him ?

[Bloods05]

These days you're probably right. When I was a boy (50 yrs ago) Hawthorn was a dump.

So was Carlton.

[liz]

Loving the way George Hewett is developing - so composed. His left foot kick to Heeny in the goal square was fantastic.

His handball over the top of traffic to find Jones for his goal was pretty good too. Absolutely perfectly placed and weighted.

[graemed]

His handball over the top of traffic to find Jones for his goal was pretty good too. Absolutely perfectly placed and weighted.

He has beautiful balance and keeps his feet in many contests so he creates space and time then is able to release the ball effectively despite traffic, another example of this was on the Ladies Stand flank when he collected the footy in the contest and released to Kennedy who was free.

Unfortunately he is also being noticed for his ability to win free kicks for high contact. Unlike others his are usually the result of winning the footy low then staying low in the act of being tackled.

Whilst a successful ploy and well within the rules, he does risk serious injury by the very nature of exposing his neck and head.

[penga]

Unfortunately he is also being noticed for his ability to win free kicks for high contact. Unlike others his are usually the result of winning the footy low then staying low in the act of being tackled.

Whilst a successful ploy and well within the rules, he does risk serious injury by the very nature of exposing his neck and head.

Ah, another comment regarding ducking. Hewett needs the Selwood slip coached out of him pronto!!

[Nico]

In Hewett's defence; when he got caught high he was coming up after gathering the ball at his feet. He may have put his head in the right spot for a free but I don't know that he could have done anything else.

[Ludwig]

I don't have a problem with the way Hewett gets his frees either. It's similar to the Joel Selwood method. I wouldn't even call it a technique. It's going in and getting possession of the ball, staying low and moving forward, but not into a stationary player. Its very hard to tackle someone doing that, but its a reward for the player that wins the ball. And the onus is on the tackler, who is often the one that didn't win possession and then tries to make amends by the tackling the player that does.

What I don't like is the 2nd Lindsay Thomas stunt where he backs into Nick Smith. In that case Thomas is initiating the contact to draw the free kick. He's not trying to avoid being tackled or making any attempt to play the ball and improve his advantage. He simply looks to draw head high contact. If the player in possession stays low and drives into a stationary player, then it's play on. I don't see why driving into a player in reverse should make a difference. The point is the player with the ball is initiating the head high contact.

Players like Puopolo and McGlynn are short and quick and by that very nature are difficult to tackle and will draw a lot of head high contact. So be it. We can't penalize a player for being short.

[penga]

I don't have a problem with the way Hewett gets his frees either. It's similar to the Joel Selwood method. I wouldn't even call it a technique. It's going in and getting possession of the ball, staying low and moving forward, but not into a stationary player. Its very hard to tackle someone doing that, but its a reward for the player that wins the ball. And the onus is on the tackler, who is often the one that didn't win possession and then tries to make amends by the tackling the player that does.

Hmm.. Hewett employs the Selwood technique of raising his elbow, ensuring the contact goes high. Watch for it.

[WauchopeAnalyst]

I am sure that I will regret saying this, but I have watched about 1.5 quarters of the North game

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[WauchopeAnalyst]

I am sure that I will regret saying this, but I have watched about 1.5 quarters of the North game and McVeigh was terrible.

Lost every contest, 2 x Thomas, Dumont, missed 5m handpass, kicked straight to Waite, 1 good banana kick to Rohan, another lost contest started when 3m in front and then Petrie won the ball. Mcveigh get towed around by Nahas and doesnt touch him. Picks up Harvey in defence for ball ups or boundary throw ins, not running with him, so far.

The 2 goals. 2 good kicks. Straight turnover, which he fumbled, but regathered, poor drop but flushed it. Other goal created by brilliant handpass by Hannebery.

Unfortunately there is an unbalanced view by many and the coaches that McVeigh is a deity and a Churchillian leader and his mistakes are white washed or ignored.

Longmire and Mcveigh have admirable traits and there history shows their talent but as I have said previously it just won't work properly. History is yesterday. Kizza is playing better then Mcveigh every week, by Mcveigh is talked up every week.

Longmire gave Mcveigh a vote, there were only 4 better players on the night, cmon there has to more this bromance then his on field performance.

Pointing doesnt count. I see Kizza, Joey, Parks, Titch, Buddy, Reg, Laids all pointing but the Rose Coloured Glasses brigade all pump up Mcveigh as our leader for pointing.

The fact is Dan is the man, our most important player and our inspiring leader.

I dont want to have another great season and then pumped in a grand final, like 2014, with our leader delivering nothing on field and coaching crew delivering nothing off field.

My view of 2014 GF is that Buddy, JPK, Goodes and McGlynn were our best players and think about that!

From my view, I dont think its a rant and I am a facts man living today, not a romantic living on happy days of yesterday.

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[barry]

Post of the year

[WauchopeAnalyst]

I told you that I was concerned about my post and now it has fulfilled the prophecy with Barrys' comment. Maybe Im wrong!????

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[barry]

I told you that I was concerned about my post and now it has fulfilled the prophecy with Barrys' comment. Maybe Im wrong!????

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Gee, thanks.????