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  • Mug Punter
    On the Rookie List
    • Nov 2009
    • 3325

    Originally posted by barry
    Wow. Suns would jump at pick 10 + hanley for JOM.
    I think that would be a fair trade but if he can get fit again and be in the top 5 players in the comp (he is that good potentially I believe) then the Hawks will feel it is well spent.

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    • The Big Cat
      On the veteran's list
      • Apr 2006
      • 2313

      Originally posted by Mug Punter
      One thing that I think is absolutely 100% certain though is that if we are to make a late play for JOM then we must find someone else to pay Tippett's wages in full.

      I can't see the JOM deal falling over now as the Hawks have invested too much to get pick 10 and have the deal fall over. The Roar has a "pundit" suggesting that Schoenmakers and Hartung will go to the Lions who will then send Hanley to the Suns along with the Hawks Pick 10. I'd suggest that is about as good as deal as the Suns will get.
      I think pick 10 goes to the Lions
      Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        Originally posted by The Big Cat
        I think pick 10 goes to the Lions
        This only happens in a parallel universe where Terry Wallace is the Gold Coast list manager.

        In another parallel universe Hawthorn trade their 5 time B & F winner + Jordan Lewis + Josh Hill + Schoenmakes + Hartung + Pick 23 + their 2017 1st round pick for a man in wheelchair. A drunk sports reporter gets on the radio the next day and repeats the words 'Clarko is a Genius' for 52 minutes before someone named The Ox knocks him over the head and drags him out of the studio. It sounds like it would make a good science fiction movie, although a bit far-fetched for my taste.

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        • Mug Punter
          On the Rookie List
          • Nov 2009
          • 3325

          Originally posted by The Big Cat
          I think pick 10 goes to the Lions
          I think that Pick 10 to the Suns would, in the words of Jake Niall (whose prune shaped face I'll miss after trade week is over), form the plank of the deal. Hanley just gets the acceptable player to them albeit indirectly, since the Hawks weren't prepared to lose a genuine top half player. I think Shoenmakers and Hartung will work for the Lions actually as they try and shore up the list but they are sooo far behind the pack. The only thing is they are starting to get some strong local content up there but they need Schache and the beanpole kid Hipwood to have breakout years.

          I think Pick 10 plus Hanley works. If he was fully fit without an injury cloud I reckon you'd throw an extra first rounder in.

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            Gold coast wont be interested in Tippet. He's close to 30, and they have good depth in big men.

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            • ScottH
              It's Goodes to cheer!!
              • Sep 2003
              • 23665

              I'm hearing Tippett to Melbourne.
              Anyone else heard this?

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              • Captain
                Captain of the Side
                • Feb 2004
                • 3602

                Originally posted by ScottH
                I'm hearing Tippett to Melbourne.
                Anyone else heard this?
                If true, hopefully for not more draft picks!

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                • The Big Cat
                  On the veteran's list
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 2313

                  Originally posted by ScottH
                  I'm hearing Tippett to Melbourne.
                  Anyone else heard this?
                  Source?
                  Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                    • mattybloods
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 482

                      I imagine it's what's holding Nankervis back from joining Richmond who are apparently quite keen

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                      • Ludwig
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9359

                        There's a review of Lewis Melican on the Swans' website. It sounds like he's staying for another year. This would mean that we need 3 senior spots for Papley, Newman and Foote (as Melican will be the 3rd year rookie).

                        It seems to me that Hiscox gets delisted and we trade 2 more players in order to get 4 live picks. Towers is likely to be one and Nankervis the other. I think we would pull the plug on Tippett if someone would take his salary, but this is unlikely.

                        I wouldn't be interested in trading our picks 14 and 17 for picks 5 or 6, which would likely get you either Ainsworth or Tarranto. Both are good players, but not so much better than other players likely to be available in the the mid teens - Berry, Witherden, Venables to name a few. Two of those seem better than one of Ainsworth or Tarranto.

                        I would also have BJ, Robinson and Marsh on the trade table, mainly because I think they will struggle to get senior time, although I can't see any interest in them from other clubs.

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                        • ScottH
                          It's Goodes to cheer!!
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 23665

                          Originally posted by The Big Cat
                          Source?
                          A demons fan at work heard it on the grapevine.

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                          • ScottH
                            It's Goodes to cheer!!
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 23665

                            Originally posted by Ludwig
                            There's a review of Lewis Melican on the Swans' website. It sounds like he's staying for another year. This would mean that we need 3 senior spots for Papley, Newman and Foote (as Melican will be the 3rd year rookie).

                            It seems to me that Hiscox gets delisted and we trade 2 more players in order to get 4 live picks. Towers is likely to be one and Nankervis the other. I think we would pull the plug on Tippett if someone would take his salary, but this is unlikely.

                            I wouldn't be interested in trading our picks 14 and 17 for picks 5 or 6, which would likely get you either Ainsworth or Tarranto. Both are good players, but not so much better than other players likely to be available in the the mid teens - Berry, Witherden, Venables to name a few. Two of those seem better than one of Ainsworth or Tarranto.

                            I would also have BJ, Robinson and Marsh on the trade table, mainly because I think they will struggle to get senior time, although I can't see any interest in them from other clubs.
                            I would have thought Robinson would replace Mitchell in the seniors.

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                            • mattybloods
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 482

                              I can't see why Melbourne would go for Tippett while they've got Gawn

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                              • Ludwig
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9359

                                Originally posted by ScottH
                                I would have thought Robinson would replace Mitchell in the seniors.
                                It's more likely that Newman and Rose get senior spots with Jones, Mills, Heeney and Hewett seeing more midfield time. I also think Foote may move past Robinson this year in the pecking order. Saying that, Robinson is a handy player and his injury was a serious setback for him. He seems to be well liked by the coaching staff, so he could push for senior selection with a strong preseason.

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