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  • KTigers
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2012
    • 2499

    #76
    Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
    Of course. I feel the same about the haka but that is more for show, provided they don't invade their opponents personal space.

    This was worse. Running right to your opponents in a threatening manner and pretending to throw a spear at them? Its completely disrespectful. Why does the opponent have to stand there politely and take it all for the sake of not offending a culture?
    I guess you'd have to ask the Bombers players if they found it "completely disrespectful", and if they felt they had to
    "take it all for the sake of not offending a culture". My guess...… nope.

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    • jono2707
      Goes up to 11
      • Oct 2007
      • 3326

      #77
      Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
      Of course. I feel the same about the haka but that is more for show, provided they don't invade their opponents personal space.

      This was worse. Running right to your opponents in a threatening manner and pretending to throw a spear at them? Its completely disrespectful. Why does the opponent have to stand there politely and take it all for the sake of not offending a culture?
      Brilliant humour. Love it.

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      • The Big Cat
        On the veteran's list
        • Apr 2006
        • 2356

        #78
        Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
        And rightly so. It was a terrible look. Stack has every right to participate in an indigenous dance but performing an act of aggression and intimidation like that was completely out of line especially when his opponents are unable to retaliate.
        They were able to retaliate and defend themselves. The Essendon player knocked away Stack's invisible spear with his invisible shield! You must have missed it.
        Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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        • stevoswan
          Veterans List
          • Sep 2014
          • 8555

          #79
          I'll go with Titus on this one.....

          "The highlight of the night was the war dance performed before the game as part of Dreamtime at the ‘G.

          Richmond’s Sydney Stack even threw an imaginary spear at the Essendon players, but there was no outcry like when Adam Goodes did it towards Carlton supporters.

          Perhaps that’s progress, or perhaps it’s just the fact everyone knows Essendon players have had plenty of experience of sharp objects being poked into them."

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          • Bloods05
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2008
            • 1641

            #80
            Originally posted by stevoswan
            I'll go with Titus on this one.....

            "The highlight of the night was the war dance performed before the game as part of Dreamtime at the ‘G.

            Richmond’s Sydney Stack even threw an imaginary spear at the Essendon players, but there was no outcry like when Adam Goodes did it towards Carlton supporters.

            Perhaps that’s progress, or perhaps it’s just the fact everyone knows Essendon players have had plenty of experience of sharp objects being poked into them."

            He's wrong about that, we've had one outcry here.

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            • liz
              Veteran
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 16770

              #81
              Throughout the discussion on the upcoming The Final Quarter, there has been mention of a second documentary addressing the Goodes situation. Some details have been released today. It's a venture between Goodes himself and Stan Grant. Grant was instrumental in trying to keep the conversation going after Goodes bowed out of the public spotlight.

              "The Australian Dream", which is the name of this second film, was a tag Grant used frequently in the articles he wrote and speeches he gave. Unlike The Final Quarter, which relies purely on archival footage, this film features Adam reflecting now on what he went through. There are some more details, including a very brief trailer, in the SMH article below.

              The film itself will open the Melbourne Film Festival in August.

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              • AnnieH
                RWOs Black Sheep
                • Aug 2006
                • 11332

                #82
                Hope they show The Australian Dream somewhere in Sydney.
                Can't wait to see it.
                Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                • dimelb
                  pr. dim-melb; m not f
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 6889

                  #83
                  Also on The Age: https://www.theage.com.au/entertainm...29-p51sgh.html
                  He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                  • Faunac8
                    Senior Player
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 1548

                    #84
                    A tale of two Adam Goodes films: docos on AFL legend put racism in big picture | Sport | The Guardian

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                    • stevoswan
                      Veterans List
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 8555

                      #85
                      Originally posted by liz
                      Throughout the discussion on the upcoming The Final Quarter, there has been mention of a second documentary addressing the Goodes situation. Some details have been released today. It's a venture between Goodes himself and Stan Grant. Grant was instrumental in trying to keep the conversation going after Goodes bowed out of the public spotlight.

                      "The Australian Dream", which is the name of this second film, was a tag Grant used frequently in the articles he wrote and speeches he gave. Unlike The Final Quarter, which relies purely on archival footage, this film features Adam reflecting now on what he went through. There are some more details, including a very brief trailer, in the SMH article below.

                      The film itself will open the Melbourne Film Festival in August.

                      https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment...29-p51sgh.html
                      That one looks fantastic.....Stan Grant is a great journalist. I'm looking forward to both doco's and I'm glad they have been made.

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                      • neilfws
                        Senior Player
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 1826

                        #86
                        Don't think this review was posted here yet. Good read.

                        The Final Quarter review – exhilarating Adam Goodes documentary pulses with urgency | Film | The Guardian

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                        • ScottH
                          It's Goodes to cheer!!
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 23665

                          #87
                          Trailer For Documentary About The Racism Adam Goodes Copped In AFL Is Here - LADbible

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                          • Sandridge
                            Outer wing, Lake Oval
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2076

                            #88
                            Originally posted by neilfws
                            Magnificent article! Thanks for posting neilfws!

                            Just love this bit:

                            "Goodes’s role in attempting to make Australia a more educated and tolerant country will be remembered long after all the marks, kicks, and tackles have been forgotten."

                            I'm so glad that what happened to Goodesy isn't "just going away" and that the people who made our champ leave the game the way he did might - just might - actually think about what they said and did.

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              #89
                              I had a tear in my eye just looking at the trailer. I'm going to be a blubbering mess when I watch the film.

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                              • Nico
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 11339

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Sandridge
                                Magnificent article! Thanks for posting neilfws!

                                Just love this bit:

                                "Goodes’s role in attempting to make Australia a more educated and tolerant country will be remembered long after all the marks, kicks, and tackles have been forgotten."

                                I'm so glad that what happened to Goodesy isn't "just going away" and that the people who made our champ leave the game the way he did might - just might - actually think about what they said and did.
                                Doubt it. Hawthorn supporters I have spoken to are unrepentant. Have a friend on Facebook from Perth and some comments on there show that they too are the same. One idiot posted that he is the dirtiest player he had seen. Obviously hasn't watched much footy. Hhmm, choke, choke, cough, cough.......John Worsfold anyone.
                                http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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