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  • kilroyII
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Sep 2016
    • 139

    Originally posted by 56-14
    I always thought Fitzpatrick was a bit on the tame side. Not the type to stand-up to the Mummy types.
    (I don't know anything about McLachlan's V.F.L. career.)
    McLachlan is a puppet nothing more nothing less.

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    • Doctor J.
      Senior Player
      • Feb 2003
      • 1310

      Originally posted by 707
      Good to see Finlayson get 4 weeks (down to 3 weeks with early plea) for his hit on Jones. GWS becoming the home for dog acts.
      Leon Cameron did spend time as an assistant under Clarkson, and Sheedy was the master of coaching the dog act. This should be no surprise.

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      • goswannies
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2007
        • 3049

        Originally posted by 56-14
        (I don't know anything about McLachlan's V.F.L. career.)
        As a player? I think he spent a couple of years on Carlton's sup list (when they existed) but mostly played amateurs with Melb Uni

        No senior games with Carlton I don't think

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        • stevoswan
          Veterans List
          • Sep 2014
          • 8550

          Originally posted by 707
          Good to see Finlayson get 4 weeks (down to 3 weeks with early plea) for his hit on Jones. GWS becoming the home for dog acts.
          Yet it has been reported in the press and on the AFL website as an 'accidental hit'........

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          • ugg
            Can you feel it?
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 15969

            I honestly think the SJ hit was much worse than the Finlayson hit. At least Jones had the ball whereas Kennedy wasn't in possession of the ball. The difference seems to be that Jones was stretchered off and took no further part in the game while Kennedy could return to the field and played relatively well.
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            • Meg
              Go Swannies!
              Site Admin
              • Aug 2011
              • 4828

              Originally posted by ugg
              I honestly think the SJ hit was much worse than the Finlayson hit. At least Jones had the ball whereas Kennedy wasn't in possession of the ball. The difference seems to be that Jones was stretchered off and took no further part in the game while Kennedy could return to the field and played relatively well.
              'Impact' was the only difference in the grading. Both incidents were assessed as careless and high - but the hit on Kennedy was assessed as medium impact (he passed the concussion test and came back on). The hit on Jones was assessed as high impact as Jones was knocked unconscious and taken to hospital.

              On top of that Finlayson had a one-match loading added due to bad record. Johnson was very fortunate that he had one suspension during the relevant two year period but a second one fell just outside it - so technically for this purpose he did not have a 'bad record'.

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              • Maltopia
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2016
                • 1556

                SJ hit was intentional graded as careless.

                Screenshot clearly shows he raised his arm, had a clear path past Kennedy (but he chose to go left to strike off the ball) and he was not looking anywhere near the ball.

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                • dejavoodoo44
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 8582

                  Originally posted by ugg
                  I honestly think the SJ hit was much worse than the Finlayson hit. At least Jones had the ball whereas Kennedy wasn't in possession of the ball. The difference seems to be that Jones was stretchered off and took no further part in the game while Kennedy could return to the field and played relatively well.
                  While it is one of my bugbears that suspensions are largely seem to be judged on injury, rather than intent; I'm not really sure which was worse? Yes, Zak had the ball, but I think that both were attempts to deliberately injure the player.
                  One thing I do wonder though: was the Johnson hit an inspiration for the Findlayson hit? That is, Johnson was already being lauded for setting a tough, we aren't going to take a backward step attitude, to his younger team mates. So with that in mind, it's quite possible that Findlayson, who was bound to be watching on Saturday, decided to emulate Johnson on Sunday?

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                  Originally posted by Maltopia
                  SJ hit was intentional graded as careless.

                  Screenshot clearly shows he raised his arm, had a clear path past Kennedy (but he chose to go left to strike off the ball) and he was not looking anywhere near the ball.
                  I know, that's almost as offensive as, "At no stage did Tippett's head hit the ground".

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                  • 707
                    Veterans List
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 6204

                    Well, well, well, the footy gods have delivered their verdict, Stevie J's "dog" act on Kennedy wasn't graded high enough by the MRP so the footy gods decided to do a "dog" act of their own on GWS and deliver a Prelim defeat in the most painful way and at Spotless too.

                    Stevie J's "dog" act has in all probability dealt this defeat to GWS so he has paid the ultimate price for what he did by having to sit helpless in the stands whilst GWS just failed to grasp their GF berth.

                    Thanks footy gods, this is better than grading the hit as intentional and giving him two weeks, much, much better! :-)

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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16763

                      When I saw this thread bumped I had my heart in my mouth for a couple of seconds, suspecting someone might have decreed that Buddy's massaging of Motlop's face was going to come under scrutiny!

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                      • jono2707
                        Goes up to 11
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 3326

                        I felt nearly as happy to see GWS lose as I have to see Collingwood lose in the past, or to see Hawthorn bomb out last week.
                        Perhaps this is what a rivalry feels like?

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                        • 707
                          Veterans List
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6204

                          Originally posted by jono2707
                          I felt nearly as happy to see GWS lose as I have to see Collingwood lose in the past, or to see Hawthorn bomb out last week.
                          Perhaps this is what a rivalry feels like?
                          Been a great finals series so far for me, Hawks out in straight sets and now looking like yesteryears team, the creaming of the Crows was excellent for me being in Adelaide, Geelong's "sell the house" reload failing spectacularly, Stevie probably costing GWS a flag, LOLNorf, and finally getting to play the Dogs in the GF.

                          Full confidence that we won't let being bookies favourites get to us this time, I'm upbeat - go Swans!

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                          • rb4x
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 968

                            Well we are not fans favourites. Last time I looked on AFL 60% expected dogs to win GF vs 40% for swans.

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                            • jono2707
                              Goes up to 11
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 3326

                              Originally posted by rb4x
                              Well we are not fans favourites. Last time I looked on AFL 60% expected dogs to win GF vs 40% for swans.
                              I'd probably want to see whether the masses on AFL.com prefer Trump or Hilary or see whether they think Brexit is a good idea before I give that vote much credence.

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                              • DeadlyAkkuret
                                Veterans List
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 4547

                                Originally posted by rb4x
                                Well we are not fans favourites. Last time I looked on AFL 60% expected dogs to win GF vs 40% for swans.
                                Emotionally charged voting.

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