G.F. Day Thread. Sydney V Western Bulldogs. MCG 2.30pm.

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  • neilfws
    Senior Player
    • Aug 2009
    • 1826

    Originally posted by Blue Sun
    The Swans were well and truly in the match with 5-6 minutes left and were only down by a point or so
    And yet could not string together 2 goals in a row, which is the key thing in that type of close, goal-for-goal situation.

    Very disappointing day but in the end, you need to score when it matters. They did, we didn't.

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    • aardvark
      Veterans List
      • Mar 2010
      • 5685

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      This was the one that stood out for me. It wasn't a Captains performance by any means. Very disappointing.

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      • neilfws
        Senior Player
        • Aug 2009
        • 1826

        Originally posted by aardvark
        I was surprised Mitch was so high up. I thought he was very quiet in the second half.
        Numbers and perceptions don't always match up, but that's the top 5 I would have listed as making a solid contribution for a majority of the game. After those names, I would have struggled.

        I'd suggest that was the real difference yesterday: they had more contributors, for longer and scored when it mattered most.

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        • Untamed Snark
          Senior Player
          • Feb 2011
          • 1375

          Originally posted by aardvark
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          This was the one that stood out for me. It wasn't a Captains performance by any means. Very disappointing.
          My brother and I were saying last week we are a better team without Macca.
          If he stays on next year he *must* relinquish captaincy.

          We really missed Aliir yesterday, his calm footy brain would have helped a lot ????
          Chillin' with the strange Quarks

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            Originally posted by aardvark
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            This was the one that stood out for me. It wasn't a Captains performance by any means. Very disappointing.
            What were his pointing stats?. I didnt even see any of that style of "leadership" on the ground at all.

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            • Steve
              Regular in the Side
              • Jan 2003
              • 676

              There's no doubt there is a halo effect where certain teams consistently get favourable treatment from the umpires.

              The Bulldogs are benefitting from that on the back of all the rhetoric about them playing a positive brand of footy.

              Hawthorn had the same thing - despite all their snipers, they had such a high skill level, and small forwards who put on such great tackling pressure.

              So whatever happens, the umps are more likely to punish their opponents more readily, but also be more lenient on them in similar circumstances.

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              • RogueSwan
                McVeigh for Brownlow
                • Apr 2003
                • 4602

                Originally posted by Melbournehammer
                .... to see stringer run away from smith like he was standing still and joey kennedy run past smith to put the pressure on reminded me just how slow our back six are ....
                Bit tough on Smooch. He had just gone on a gut busting run where Stringer was just waiting , moments before, if it is the same incident I am thinking of.
                "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                • RogueSwan
                  McVeigh for Brownlow
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 4602

                  A bit of a pointless question now but at the wing end of the season injuries to key Swans have blunted out chances.
                  Last year Parker, Reid and Macca.
                  This year AA, Mills, Macca and Tippett.
                  The Dogs didn't hobble into yesterday unlike we did.
                  Does that point to our depth, physios or has no real bearing?
                  Our two premierships came on the back of a settled, fit, team. Hopefully next year we can have a bit of luck on the injury front. A fit Reid, Rohan and Tippett will go along way to getting back to the big dance.
                  "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                  • Levii3
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 655

                    Originally posted by RogueSwan
                    A bit of a pointless question now but at the wing end of the season injuries to key Swans have blunted out chances.
                    Last year Parker, Reid and Macca.
                    This year AA, Mills, Macca and Tippett.
                    The Dogs didn't hobble into yesterday unlike we did.
                    Does that point to our depth, physios or has no real bearing?
                    Our two premierships came on the back of a settled, fit, team. Hopefully next year we can have a bit of luck on the injury front. A fit Reid, Rohan and Tippett will go along way to getting back to the big dance.
                    Parker and Kennedy also with knee injuries this year.

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                    • stevoswan
                      Veterans List
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 8560

                      Originally posted by Blue Sun
                      I understand what you're saying, but you don't fully understand the effect of such a lopsided free kick count. When the umpires award 2.5x the free kicks to the opposition over the course of a match, it really does have a massive influence. How many Sydney scoring shots would have been generated had the umpires been fair? And on the flip side, how many less scoring shots would the Bulldogs have had? Not only that, free kicks swing the momentum, our boys were no doubt disheartened by the unfairness of it all. They gave everything they had, just like the opposition, but they were penalised for it and the Bulldogs rewarded.

                      The Swans were well and truly in the match with 5-6 minutes left and were only down by a point or so, had the umpiring been even, we would all be celebrating right now and rapt with how amazing our team played (we may ourselves been up by 3 or 4 kicks).

                      Oh, and some food for thought: for every 2 free kicks the Swans received, the Bulldogs received a 50m penalty. Hows that for a damning stat? In a Grand Final, no less.

                      Could you imagine the Melbourne media had the Doggies been cheated like we were yesterday? They'd be out for blood.
                      Agree. I wrote on a Sportsfan thread last week that if the umpires don't get caught up in the 'Romance of the Dogs', we will win by 29 pts. I still stand by that assertion today. The umpires did get caught up in it and it cost us a premiership. They are supposed to be 'professionals'. They suck, the AFL sucks.......and it's sucking the life out of Swans fans.

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                      • Belly
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 1

                        Norm Smith medal

                        Originally posted by stevoswan
                        Agree. I wrote on a Sportsfan thread last week that if the umpires don't get caught up in the 'Romance of the Dogs', we will win by 29 pts. I still stand by that assertion today. The umpires did get caught up in it and it cost us a premiership. They are supposed to be 'professionals'. They suck, the AFL sucks.......and it's sucking the life out of Swans fans.
                        Norm Smith
                        Awarded to umpires

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                        • stevoswan
                          Veterans List
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 8560

                          Originally posted by neilfws
                          And yet could not string together 2 goals in a row, which is the key thing in that type of close, goal-for-goal situation.

                          Very disappointing day but in the end, you need to score when it matters. They did, we didn't.
                          We scored four in a row in the second quarter, before the umpires stepped in again to give them momentum heading into the second half. GF's are all about momentum and the slime green were determined to thwart ours at every turn and it worked. This is what makes it a VERY disappointing day........in the end.

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                          • Blue Sun
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2010
                            • 1440

                            Make sure you sign this petition if you want an inquiry into yesterdays umpiring.

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                            • 0918330512
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 1654

                              Originally posted by RogueSwan
                              A bit of a pointless question now but at the wing end of the season injuries to key Swans have blunted out chances.
                              Last year Parker, Reid and Macca.
                              This year AA, Mills, Macca and Tippett.
                              The Dogs didn't hobble into yesterday unlike we did.
                              Does that point to our depth, physios or has no real bearing?
                              Our two premierships came on the back of a settled, fit, team. Hopefully next year we can have a bit of luck on the injury front. A fit Reid, Rohan and Tippett will go along way to getting back to the big dance.
                              Oh, I dunno ...
                              Marcus Adams Foot Season
                              Kieran Collins Shoulder Season
                              Nathan Hrovat Shoulder Test
                              Robert Murphy Knee Season
                              Josh Prudden Knee Season
                              Jack Redpath Knee Season
                              Jordan Roughead Eye Test
                              Matthew Suckling Achilles Test
                              Mitch Wallis Leg Season

                              If you're gunna include Mills, Macca & Tip, you have to give them Roughy, Suckling & Jong

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                              • giant
                                Veterans List
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 4731

                                I'm feeling sad, sick and flat today. But to finish the weekend on a positive note, the team has vastly exceeded my expectations this year, and have shown some fantastic spirit. They've promised they'll be back and I'll choose to believe them.

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