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  • crackedactor
    Regular in the Side
    • May 2012
    • 919

    #16
    The AFL average wage is $265,00. Why would a player who a regular senior player be on only $100,000 ? Surely he would have been offered at least $250,00 per year.

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    • lorakf
      Pushing for Selection
      • Sep 2013
      • 53

      #17
      I was told today by a very reliable source that Xavier has signed for Sydney Uni NEAFL side. This is a very strange twist to the saga if true as it would imply he is now staying in Sydney. Would love to know the full story.

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      • aardvark
        Veterans List
        • Mar 2010
        • 5685

        #18
        Hard to comprehend I know but maybe he just wanted to go home to Melbourne and didn't care whether or not he played AFL.

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        • mattybloods
          Warming the Bench
          • Jul 2016
          • 482

          #19
          Originally posted by lorakf
          I was told today by a very reliable source that Xavier has signed for Sydney Uni NEAFL side. This is a very strange twist to the saga if true as it would imply he is now staying in Sydney. Would love to know the full story.
          Would be very surprised if this was true. I hope we get an interview from X at some stage so we can all stop speculating

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          • dimelb
            pr. dim-melb; m not f
            • Jun 2003
            • 6889

            #20
            Originally posted by crackedactor
            The AFL average wage is $265,00. Why would a player who a regular senior player be on only $100,000 ? Surely he would have been offered at least $250,00 per year.
            The average is distorted to some extent by the very high amounts paid to those at the top of the tree - Lance, Gary A etc. A better measure for this purpose is to find the median, the figure that divides all the players into two equal halves; my hunch is it would be considerably lower than $265 thou.

            Even so I think most players - not to mention a great many would-be players - would be very happy to be on that sort of money and do what they have to.
            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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            • stellation
              scott names the planets
              • Sep 2003
              • 9723

              #21
              Originally posted by crackedactor
              The AFL average wage is $265,00. Why would a player who a regular senior player be on only $100,000 ? Surely he would have been offered at least $250,00 per year.
              Xavier would have been at the lower end of the scale, I believe- so 1 years on the rookie wage (around $55k first year), second year player contract (around $65k for latter round players). I'd be surprised if we doubled his contract going from 2nd year to 3rd/4th, given he hadn't been breaking the door down for selection and we gave him 2 years (and would have been penny pinching), but if we did it may have only brought him up to about $130k- but I suspect he was on less than that.

              Some of these guys really bust a gut for the pay they get. Understandable they don't walk in to a Lance/Kurt salary, but the gap can be quite remarkable considering that they have to put in the same hours/effort.
              I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
              We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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              • Ludwig
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                #22
                Originally posted by barry
                Not sure what X was on. Lets say less than $100,000. Thats not much for the sacrifices a footy career requires, not to mention the damage it does to your body.
                I'm not sure what X was on either, but it must have been something that produces delusions of grandeur.

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                • The Big Cat
                  On the veteran's list
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 2360

                  #23
                  There are rumours that something happened after the GF that caused angst amongst the club. No idea what is was but I've seen the quote "Xavier took the loss very badly". Maybe that's code for something else.
                  Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                  • caj23
                    Senior Player
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 2462

                    #24
                    Originally posted by stellation
                    Some of these guys really bust a gut for the pay they get. Understandable they don't walk in to a Lance/Kurt salary, but the gap can be quite remarkable considering that they have to put in the same hours/effort.
                    Of course, its called serving your apprenticeship. It doesn't matter whether you're a merchant banker, plumber or AFL footballer. You start at the bottom rung and work your way to the top, it doesn't just get handed to you on a platter just for showing up.

                    It seems to be a pretty common theme for Xavier's generation. I've got a lot of mates who work for the Big 4 Accounting firms and the graduates come in day 1 expecting to be running the show and refusing to do any of the so called menial work while they earn their stripes. Most of them don't last longer than 2 years

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                    • stellation
                      scott names the planets
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 9723

                      #25
                      Originally posted by caj23
                      Of course, its called serving your apprenticeship. It doesn't matter whether you're a merchant banker, plumber or AFL footballer. You start at the bottom rung and work your way to the top, it doesn't just get handed to you on a platter just for showing up.

                      It seems to be a pretty common theme for Xavier's generation. I've got a lot of mates who work for the Big 4 Accounting firms and the graduates come in day 1 expecting to be running the show and refusing to do any of the so called menial work while they earn their stripes. Most of them don't last longer than 2 years
                      I get the idea of having to serve out your apprenticeship, I just think that at AFL level the effort required is usually more extreme than most jobs and if you're not truly passionate about it then it is probably pretty tough to keep fronting up.
                      I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                      We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                      • grarmy
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 406

                        #26
                        Originally posted by stellation
                        I get the idea of having to serve out your apprenticeship, I just think that at AFL level the effort required is usually more extreme than most jobs and if you're not truly passionate about it then it is probably pretty tough to keep fronting up.
                        Tough to keep going when you are on basic money and teammate Kurt 'The Log' Tippett is getting overs for achieving far less. XR played in his brother's shadow and couldn't do more. Same as Brandon Jack. In life there are times when you have to cut bait and move on.
                        Originally posted by The Big Cat
                        There are rumours that something happened after the GF that caused angst amongst the club. No idea what is was but I've seen the quote "Xavier took the loss very badly". Maybe that's code for something else.
                        How about watching McGlynn and Tippett amble about knowing they are going home afterwards with their pockets full of dosh for doing SFA in a grand final no less. Momma, I'm comming home.
                        "Play like you can’t lose."

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                        • ScottH
                          It's Goodes to cheer!!
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 23665

                          #27
                          Originally posted by grarmy
                          Tough to keep going when you are on basic money and teammate Kurt 'The Log' Tippett is getting overs for achieving far less. XR played in his brother's shadow and couldn't do more. Same as Brandon Jack. In life there are times when you have to cut bait and move on.


                          How about watching McGlynn and Tippett amble about knowing they are going home afterwards with their pockets full of dosh for doing SFA in a grand final no less. Momma, I'm comming home.
                          Bit harsh on McGlynn. I know he didn't star on the day, but he was inconsolable after the game.

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                          • Aprilbr
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 1803

                            #28
                            What did XR do?

                            Yes McGlynn gave us his all throughout his time in Sydney. Tippett and Reid owe us big seasons given the contract they both are on.

                            I tend to think that the wage disparity between our top 6-8 and the rest can easily create some jealousy if not handled well. X saw his housemate Mitchell leave Sydney for much more money than available in Sydney. If his salary was as low as some suggest then there is an argument that it might not be worth all of the sacrifice and hard work. One day he might answer some of these questions for us in an interview. In the mean time good luck to him.



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                            • barracuda
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Jun 2016
                              • 551

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Aprilbr
                              Yes McGlynn gave us his all throughout his time in Sydney. Tippett and Reid owe us big seasons given the contract they both are on.

                              I tend to think that the wage disparity between our top 6-8 and the rest can easily create some jealousy if not handled well. X saw his housemate Mitchell leave Sydney for much more money than available in Sydney. If his salary was as low as some suggest then there is an argument that it might not be worth all of the sacrifice and hard work. One day he might answer some of these questions for us in an interview. In the mean time good luck to him.



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                              I guess us mortals are a bit starry eyed, but to play afl for the swans, provided you can pay your rent and have a good life, why would you try to screw the club over money!

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                              • barry
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8499

                                #30
                                Originally posted by grarmy
                                Tough to keep going when you are on basic money and teammate Kurt 'The Log' Tippett is getting overs for achieving far less. XR played in his brother's shadow and couldn't do more. Same as Brandon Jack. In life there are times when you have to cut bait and move on.


                                How about watching McGlynn and Tippett amble about knowing they are going home afterwards with their pockets full of dosh for doing SFA in a grand final no less. Momma, I'm comming home.
                                Thats professional sport the world over. There is a massive pay difference. 10x. For essentially the same job. I think X and other lowly players accept that.

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