2017 trading, drafting, list management

[Aaron]

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[WauchopeAnalyst]

Awesome timing for the club before he played Snrs

Hayward is a seriously impressive skinny 18yr old and a player who will be here for many years I hope

Power & Crows will ask every year. Guaranteed, ???? even this year...

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[bloodspirit]

Power & Crows will ask every year. Guaranteed, ?????? even this year...

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Both clubs had the chance to select him in the draft if they wanted him that much. Port even had the chance twice.

Incidentally, just reviewing the draft trades I couldn't help but look envious at the trade Carlton did with the Giants. For picks 45, 58 and Geelong 2017 1st rounder they got Marchbank, Pickett and GWS' 2017 2nd rounder. That's picks 4 and 6 from the 2014 draft PLUS a second rounder for one first rounder and change. They are both players we could really use: a brilliant and nuggety small forward and a top quality KPD. I think the catch might have been their salaries. And that would have been a sticking point for us quite probably. Anyway, SOS had all the inside running and consequently a big advantage over the other 16 clubs.

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The standard contract for new draftees is two years but it's not that unusual for clubs to offer some draftees longer initial contracts, typically three years but sometimes longer. I think Mills and Heeney were both originally signed for three (and, of course, Mills has just signed on for an additional five after his initial three year contract expires).

Two questions liz:

1. With Heeney and Mills did we wait until the end of pre-season to offer the extra year?
2. Why didn't we make the same offer to our first pick (who we also selected for Round 1, unlike Hayward)? Or did we? And if so, does that mean he turned us down?

[56-14]

Did we trade any of the future draft picks we will receive this year?
(In other words, if we say, finish 8th, will we still have all relevant draft picks available at rounds 1, 2, 3, etc.?)

[royboy42]

Of these players, I doubt if any other club would be interested in having anyone other than Franklin & Kennedy, or maybe Tippett, on their list.

I'm surprised to see questions about Tippett's value as a player. Granted he is costly , due to injury prone. However, he was for the first half of last season just about the best ruck/ forward in the competition. Cruelled by injury for rest of last year, and again early this season. But sensational when fit.
Curious bias in this room sometimes towards him...one which I don't share.

[56-14]

I'm surprised to see questions about Tippett's value as a player. Granted he is costly , due to injury prone. However, he was for the first half of last season just about the best ruck/ forward in the competition. Cruelled by injury for rest of last year, and again early this season. But sensational when fit.
Curious bias in this room sometimes towards him...one which I don't share.

I know there is a Tippett thread - but I'd also like to see a lot more "sensational" games from him this year.

[707]

Did we trade any of the future draft picks we will receive this year?
(In other words, if we say, finish 8th, will we still have all relevant draft picks available at rounds 1, 2, 3, etc.?)

We currently have pick 3, 21, 39 :-) Hawthorn currently traded away pick 1 & 19 for O'Meara, mmmmmm!

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[dejavoodoo44]

We currently have pick 3, 21, 39 :-) Hawthorn currently traded away pick 1 & 19 for O'Meara, mmmmmm!

Let's hope that one of those scenarios stays that way.

[56-14]

Let's hope that one of those scenarios stays that way.

Then the Hawks could possibly get a Priority Draft Pick. I imagine a few on here would be far from happy!

[707]

Then the Hawks could possibly get a Priority Draft Pick. I imagine a few on here would be far from happy!

Priority Draft Picks for all intents and purposes don't exist any more. After years of bleeding high draft picks to homesickness and being anchored to the bottom of the table, last year Brisbane got a pick after the first round.

[Burra]

I wish we kept Membrey

[Bloody Hell]

I wish we kept Membrey

Good player, but if he stayed he'd probably be the leading goalkicker in the NEAFL. It was best for him to be traded out and is another reason why we have a good club.

I'd say Rohan has his spot.

[Billericay]

Interesting article by Chris Judd in the Age Why Josh Kelly could be the AFL's perfect footballer
which argues that the AFL's ideal is that "free flowing football is encouraged ahead of repetitive short passages of play" therefore "the value proposition of different players" has changed and also changing the interpretation of deliberate out of bounds a year ago has "changed the value of good ball users when compared to stoppage players as stoppage numbers reduced"

[dimelb]

Judd's article is interesting.

He could have added that the emphasis on free flowing football is such that "improper disposal of the ball" seems to have disappeared from the game almost completely. Watching games over the weekend I've seen the ball passed as prescribed, hit without first being held, dropped (whether on the boot or not doesn't seem to matter much), thrown whether with one hand or two, handed over like a parcel, even headed (well that's what it looked like). As far as I'm aware the AFL hasn't introduced a new law of the game, but has simply allowed all these methods of disposal.

I'm not against the fashion, indeed I'd be happy if the concept of incorrect disposal was, well, disposed of. The game has opened up and the prime values now are accurate hands and feet (as it always has been) and good leg speed. Ability to tackle is still valued - and lawful.

Our problem is that the Swans are trained as if the old rule still applied.