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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    Bailey Morrish is a player I hope we are looking at for our rookie draft. A good kicking HBF, he surprisingly missed out in last year's draft despite most pundits expecting him to be taken in the ND. Brett Anderson had him ranked 39 last year in a stronger draft than this year. He was a player I was interested in for our 3rd or 4th pick last year. He's still playing for the Dandenong Stingrays and apparently having a pretty good year. We seem to have done well with 19 yo overlooked players in Jake Lloyd, Tom Papley and Ben Ronke.

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    • Markwebbos
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2016
      • 7186

      Very interesting interview with Kinnear Beatson outlining what Swans look for in draftees. Inside recruiting: Kinnear Beatson - sydneyswans.com.au

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      • Mark26
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2017
        • 1535

        Originally posted by Markwebbos
        Very interesting interview with Kinnear Beatson outlining what Swans look for in draftees. Inside recruiting: Kinnear Beatson - sydneyswans.com.au
        Amazing. I'd lost all hope of the media reporting anything worthwhile prior to the draft. KB is a legend - love the insight in this article. Glad he is on our staff. It makes me realise that even though a little part of me wanted Watts to be a Swan, that was never going to happen with some of the attributes the Swans look for.

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        • dimelb
          pr. dim-melb; m not f
          • Jun 2003
          • 6889

          Originally posted by Markwebbos
          Very interesting interview with Kinnear Beatson outlining what Swans look for in draftees. Inside recruiting: Kinnear Beatson - sydneyswans.com.au
          That is perhaps the best interview I have read on its subject. Good probing questions, solid and substantial answers giving an insight into how the system, and the individuals in it, go about their work. Outstanding, and excellent journalism.
          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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          • 707
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2009
            • 6204

            Originally posted by Markwebbos
            Very interesting interview with Kinnear Beatson outlining what Swans look for in draftees. Inside recruiting: Kinnear Beatson - sydneyswans.com.au
            Just the best explanation of the "ducks guts" of recruiting I've read. It's a must read.

            Makes you realise that no matter what the names are that get read out at 14, 33, 51, the player will have ticked all the boxes that the Swans deem necessary. Also makes you think about last years recruits, they ticked these boxes as well.

            Also gives an understanding of why media hyped players sometimes tumble down and down the draft board until people declare that player a steal at pick x. All too often those talented steals don't make it. Full confidence in KB & team to call the best name at each pick.

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            • penga
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2003
              • 2601

              Great article amongst the puff pieces at this time of year!!
              C'mon Chels!

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              • bloodspirit
                Clubman
                • Apr 2015
                • 4448

                I'm impressed by Kin's candour and direct answers. I think some areas could have been explored further and I'm looking forward to part 2 of the interview.

                I'm still not that keen on Higgins, although he clearly has the right attitude to be successful. Give me Paps any day although of course they could play in the same team.

                While ugg's source for the O'Riordan upgrade may not have been rock solid, there is some confirmation because the Swans website today appears to confirm we will upgrade two rookies: Melican will undoubtedly be one and COR looks a good bet to be the other. If this is correct, 4 rookie spots will have been cleared (with possibility of re-rookieing AJ and/or Fisher). Can't see Pink or Ronke being upgraded yet and COR is probably ahead of Fox. I hope COR is upgraded.
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                • Meg
                  Go Swannies!
                  Site Admin
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 4828

                  As a Cat B rookie COR would not be eligible to play senior football. However the Cat A rookies will be able to play in the senior team from Round 1 2018. So it would make sense for COR to be elevated to the senior list. Similarly if AJ is picked up again as a Cat A rookie he will still be able to play senior footy if his form warrants selection. It looks to me as if the club is making strategic use of the rookie rule changes.

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                  • Mel_C
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 4470

                    Originally posted by Markwebbos
                    Tadgh Kennelly on Fox saying the Swans ?aren?t going to change a whole lot? in terms of gameplan next year. Hmmm
                    Well I doubt he would want to give away anything [emoji6] . We might be pleasantly surprised!

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                    • AB Swannie
                      Senior Player
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 1579

                      The Kinnear interview was very interesting especially the emphasis on running capacity. I always thought that this was the area that could be developed more easily rather than kicking skills or marking. However, it is a non-negotiable which suggests that Constable is not a likely draftee based on his recent test results. Lochie O?Brien must be a chance based on this too.

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                      • caj23
                        Senior Player
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 2462

                        Is the knock on Constable the recent time trial or has it been an ongoing issue with him?

                        If its the former, I understand that he is returning from injury which probably impacted his time

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                        • 707
                          Veterans List
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6204

                          Originally posted by caj23
                          Is the knock on Constable the recent time trial or has it been an ongoing issue with him?

                          If its the former, I understand that he is returning from injury which probably impacted his time
                          I noticed all the draftees that did the post Combine 2km time trial had fairly ordinary times including potential number 1 Cameron Rayner. Combine time trial winner would have beaten them all by over 400 metres! But then again he probably would have beaten heaps of very good AFL players by the same margin.

                          In KB we trust :-)

                          Part 2 of the KB interview, I liked this bit at the end - "I?ve seen too often that when a player becomes successful, the coaches have been geniuses. But when a player wasn?t successful, the recruiters were @@@@house. We try to eliminate that."
                          Last edited by 707; 22 November 2017, 09:55 AM.

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                          • Nico
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 11329

                            If we are drafting a small forward then maybe they are looking at Papley going into the midfield.
                            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                            • Markwebbos
                              Veterans List
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 7186

                              Originally posted by Nico
                              If we are drafting a small forward then maybe they are looking at Papley going into the midfield.
                              I thought he was already doing that. Do you mean as a permanent midfielder?

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                              • Nico
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 11329

                                He has spent a bit of time in the midfield but I still see him as a small forward.
                                http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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