Changes for Round 4 - West Coast

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  • rb4x
    Regular in the Side
    • Dec 2007
    • 968

    I have just noticed that we have Dalgleish officiating who if I am not wrong is also a local West Coast supporter.

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16754

      Originally posted by longmile
      Surely the much maligned Brandon Jack is a better option than a lot of these players, especially Foote and Cunningham

      At least he puts on pressure to the opposition and puts in his all. Seems to have a knack of getting the ball, while his disposal can be shoddy its not much worse than a lot of our senior players
      For all his failure to deliver consistently at senior level, I believe Cunningham is a far better option than Jack. Jack doesn't get the ball much at senior level (and he is usually asked to play a very different role to that at NEAFL level). And Cunningham can kick the ball reasonably well.

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      • longmile
        Crumber
        • Apr 2011
        • 3364

        Originally posted by liz
        For all his failure to deliver consistently at senior level, I believe Cunningham is a far better option than Jack. Jack doesn't get the ball much at senior level (and he is usually asked to play a very different role to that at NEAFL level). And Cunningham can kick the ball reasonably well.
        Pretty hard to prove when he hasnt played a senior game for well over a year. Thought he has been fairly competitive in the seniors in the past and if given the opportunity I'm sure he'd give it his all unlike Cunningham who seems neither here nor there. His consistency in the NEAFL warrants it. He seems to be getting more possessions than before
        Last edited by longmile; 12 April 2017, 07:21 PM.

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          I feel confident that we will win the free kick count this week. Rumour has it that the umpires will be awarding free kicks to players being humiliated.

          Will someone tell Longmire that the JLT series is over.

          Wow, so this is how it feels to be a Carlton supporter. Interesting.
          Last edited by Ludwig; 12 April 2017, 07:17 PM.

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          • lwjoyner
            Regular in the Side
            • Nov 2004
            • 948

            WHO KICKED THE CAT. Why bring Cunningham back.

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            • Vonsteinman
              Warming the Bench
              • Sep 2008
              • 366

              Originally posted by rb4x
              I have just noticed that we have Dalgleish officiating who if I am not wrong is also a local West Coast supporter.
              I think his allegiance has a little more of a purple haze. If you can bring yourself to do it without ripping your own eyeballs out, load up a replay of the 2015 trip to play Freo for confirmation. I think it was the Anzac round.

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              • Meg
                Go Swannies!
                Site Admin
                • Aug 2011
                • 4828

                Originally posted by liz
                Playing Papley with no match practice would be daft.
                I nodded my head and agreed with this when I read it earlier ..........................

                Gawd, we are really up @@@@ creek now.

                Naismith has rotten luck with injuries, as does Tippett. No wonder Longmire wants four rucks, pity we don't have a lot of confidence in the third one in the line. Perhaps Sinclair will be better for the run last week and on his 'home' ground.

                Like others here, I really don't want to see Reid in the ruck, he doesn't have the body for it and he is too valuable as a forward to be risked.

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                • wolftone57
                  Veterans List
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 5850

                  Originally posted by liz
                  For all his failure to deliver consistently at senior level, I believe Cunningham is a far better option than Jack. Jack doesn't get the ball much at senior level (and he is usually asked to play a very different role to that at NEAFL level). And Cunningham can kick the ball reasonably well.
                  As to the last, not lately. His kicking in the reserves last week was crap. Pure crap. Did a couple of nice dinky kicks but his long kicks, usually his strength, were terrible. Liz what I am worried about is his lack of intensity at the contest. He showed the same lack on the weekend on several occasions. At AFL level it is so noticable and the incident with Bont highlighted that lack of intensity. If he continues to play that way I'd send him on his way to the Wagga thirds.

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                  Originally posted by Meg
                  I nodded my head and agreed with this when I read it earlier ..........................

                  Gawd, we are really up @@@@ creek now.

                  Naismith has rotten luck with injuries, as does Tippett. No wonder Longmire wants four rucks, pity we don't have a lot of confidence in the third one in the line. Perhaps Sinclair will be better for the run last week and on his 'home' ground.

                  Like others here, I really don't want to see Reid in the ruck, he doesn't have the body for it and he is too valuable as a forward to be risked.
                  Cameron is injured otherwise he would have played. Agree re Reid. As for being up @@@@ creek, yep well and truly. When we players with the intensity of Nobby in Love Thy Neighbour we are in trouble.

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                  • mattybloods
                    Warming the Bench
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 482

                    3 out of 4 ruckmen injured, That's just bad luck!


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                    • Meg
                      Go Swannies!
                      Site Admin
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 4828

                      Changes for Round 4 - West Coast

                      'While young ruckman Darcy Cameron was not available for selection after injuring his shoulder in the NEAFL last week, Longmire said he?s got full confidence Callum Sinclair can handle the workload.'

                      Ok, I hadn't read this when I posted earlier. Rucking must/is dangerous work! Meanwhile over in Richmond ..... oh it is cruel!

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                      • Foreign Legion
                        Senior Player
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 3354

                        I am a bit shocked with the selections as I would have tried B.Jack this week. He played well in the NEAFL - Cunningham was just ok - and it could have been presented as a big chance for him.

                        How bad must Laidler and to a lesser extent - Towers - feel when they still can't get a game. Our Mosquito Fleet will need to have their skates on for us to have any chance.

                        Weather forecast Ok - no rain - that might help a bit.

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16754

                          Originally posted by wolftone57
                          As to the last, not lately. His kicking in the reserves last week was crap. Pure crap. Did a couple of nice dinky kicks but his long kicks, usually his strength, were terrible. Liz what I am worried about is his lack of intensity at the contest. He showed the same lack on the weekend on several occasions. At AFL level it is so noticable and the incident with Bont highlighted that lack of intensity. If he continues to play that way I'd send him on his way to the Wagga thirds.
                          I thought Cunningham's skills were a level above most of the other Swans last week (at NEAFL level). They were certainly a whole lot better than Jack's.

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                          • liz
                            Veteran
                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 16754

                            Originally posted by longmile
                            Pretty hard to prove when he hasnt played a senior game for well over a year. Thought he has been fairly competitive in the seniors in the past and if given the opportunity I'm sure he'd give it his all unlike Cunningham who seems neither here nor there. His consistency in the NEAFL warrants it. He seems to be getting more possessions than before
                            If Jack can't kick the ball at NEAFL level, there's no reason to suddenly think he's going to start doing it at senior level. I agree Cunningham is frustrating. He hasn't delivered at senior level on a consistent basis. But unlike Jack, I think he has the basic skills to do so. It doesn't matter how hard Jack were to try if selected. If you can't kick the ball, you become a liability.

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                            • Wazza
                              Regular in the Side
                              • May 2004
                              • 805

                              Not happy about Cunningham either but not much to choose from for the role they will want him to play, it was probably him or Towers but I do not understand Dawson out Foote retained. With Papley and Cunningham in I thought Dawson would add better balance being able to cover in Def or Fwd, oh well.

                              Cheers

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                              • Ludwig
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9359

                                I think we should pull Sinclair as a precaution and not risk him being injured for the Giants' game next week. We need him to be sacrificed to the Mummy. Our other ruckmen are too fragile for that kind of assignment. We don't have to put anyone in the ruck contests. Their ruckmen don't know what they're doing anyway, so we are more likely to win the ball by just laying back.

                                I agree with Liz that Cunningham has much better skills than Brandon Jack. You don't want Jack getting the ball because he just turns it over. Cunningham hardly gets the ball, so little risk of turning it over. We shouldn't underestimate the Cunningham 'intimidation' factor. We can't give up on Harry. He will be around for 3 more years.

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