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  • Billericay
    Regular in the Side
    • May 2013
    • 712

    #31
    This was only two or three weeks ago Reid a happy Swan - sydneyswans.com.au

    Soon to be out of contract Sydney forward Sam Reid says he has no real interest in joining brother Ben at Collingwood or any other Melbourne-based club at the end of the year... he told SEN radio on Wednesday that moving home to Victoria wasn't in his future plans.

    "I do love it up here (in Sydney), I love the footy club, I love the lifestyle and there's not really any reason for me to look elsewhere, to be honest."

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    • Mug Punter
      On the Rookie List
      • Nov 2009
      • 3325

      #32
      Originally posted by Billericay
      This was only two or three weeks ago Reid a happy Swan - sydneyswans.com.au

      Soon to be out of contract Sydney forward Sam Reid says he has no real interest in joining brother Ben at Collingwood or any other Melbourne-based club at the end of the year... he told SEN radio on Wednesday that moving home to Victoria wasn't in his future plans.

      "I do love it up here (in Sydney), I love the footy club, I love the lifestyle and there's not really any reason for me to look elsewhere, to be honest."
      That's all great but if he can get an extra million dollars plus over 5 years to see out his career then it becomes less straightforward.

      I think we should be able to come up with a pretty decent offer given that Tippett comes off the wages bill in 2019 so I'm cautiously optimistic unlike with Jetta and Mitchell who I called early as departures

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      • Mug Punter
        On the Rookie List
        • Nov 2009
        • 3325

        #33
        Originally posted by Ludwig
        Reid's partner is not much in the news. I wonder if she's a Sydney girl. It could be the critical factor. He also has 2 Sydney dogs. The ugly one must be around 6 yo now and not keen to move to Melbourne. Could be the decider.
        I'm almost certain she is a Sydney girl, they've been together a while now, have bought a nice house together and all that. Think she has quite a good career here as well. All good signs I guess....

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        • RogueSwan
          McVeigh for Brownlow
          • Apr 2003
          • 4602

          #34
          Originally posted by Mug Punter
          Couldn't agree more but just not sure how you work out what the drafting club should give up....
          Maybe just get rid of the whole free agency scenario????
          Most trades that happen these days seem to be dictated by the footballer wanting the move anyway. The footballer gets the move/money they want and the club they are leaving gets picks or players.
          "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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          • S.S. Bleeder
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2014
            • 2165

            #35
            Originally posted by Boddo
            Because Franklin n Reid are the perfect examples of why there needs to be compensation. Both clubs have invested heavily into both players and then in their prime lose them for virtually nothing. We are talking about a 25 year old Reid coming into his prime not a 29 year old Reid. The issue with compo is it's tied to ladder positions not what the player is worth. No way was Franklin worth only pick 19 & now the Hawks are paying for it. If they were truly compensated they would have a couple young guns coming up through the ranks which they deserve. Now that's compensation for one of the best players to ever play the game. They were the ones that could see & develop franklins potential and not pick Richard Tambling. And clubs get penalised with ladder positions all the time now with the order changing with F/S & academy picks.
            It's true that the compo pick position is reliant on ladder position, however, the problem is that they don't have a legitimate and fair review system of what round that draft pick should be. Frawley is the prime example. His annual value and contract length didn't justify his first round position and people who know the system were extremely surprised when it was announced. Given their record, I would have no faith in the VFL making a fair assessment of Reids value. They'll just screw us over again as they usually do. We've been too successful.
            Last edited by S.S. Bleeder; 19 April 2017, 09:00 PM.

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              #36
              Originally posted by RogueSwan
              Maybe just get rid of the whole free agency scenario????
              Most trades that happen these days seem to be dictated by the footballer wanting the move anyway. The footballer gets the move/money they want and the club they are leaving gets picks or players.
              Can't get rid of it. It's in the CBA. The AFLPA want the number of years lowered from 8 to 6, so if anything, it's going in the other direction. The point is that the players want the ability to negotiate the best deal for themselves, but if the club they wanted to go to has to give up something in return it restricts their ability to move to their club of choice.

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              • aardvark
                Veterans List
                • Mar 2010
                • 5685

                #37
                Collingwood already have a Reid that breaks down all the time. Why would they want two?

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  #38
                  Originally posted by aardvark
                  Collingwood already have a Reid that breaks down all the time. Why would they want two?
                  To complete their collection?

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                  • Velour&Ruffles
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 896

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Boddo
                    Because Franklin n Reid are the perfect examples of why there needs to be compensation. Both clubs have invested heavily into both players and then in their prime lose them for virtually nothing. We are talking about a 25 year old Reid coming into his prime not a 29 year old Reid. The issue with compo is it's tied to ladder positions not what the player is worth. No way was Franklin worth only pick 19 & now the Hawks are paying for it. If they were truly compensated they would have a couple young guns coming up through the ranks which they deserve. Now that's compensation for one of the best players to ever play the game. They were the ones that could see & develop franklins potential and not pick Richard Tambling. And clubs get penalised with ladder positions all the time now with the order changing with F/S & academy picks.
                    Great analysis. The "system" is well and truly effed. It is actually not about "compensation" at all.

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                    Originally posted by Industrial Fan
                    I don't know if it's just me that thinks the system is broken but to me it's a disaster.
                    It's not just you. It's high farce.
                    My opinion is objective truth in its purest form

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                    • stellation
                      scott names the planets
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 9718

                      #40
                      Originally posted by aardvark
                      Collingwood already have a Reid that breaks down all the time. Why would they want two?
                      Perhaps the same impulse that can lead people to buy multiple Datsun 120Ys in the hope they could salvage one good one out of the pieces?
                      I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                      We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                      • mcs
                        Travelling Swannie!!
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 8149

                        #41
                        Originally posted by stellation
                        Perhaps the same impulse that can lead people to buy multiple Datsun 120Ys in the hope they could salvage one good one out of the pieces?
                        My old man had a Datsun 120Y for about 15 years, gave it basically no service at all, and it just kept on keeping on
                        "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                        • stellation
                          scott names the planets
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 9718

                          #42
                          Originally posted by mcs
                          My old man had a Datsun 120Y for about 15 years, gave it basically no service at all, and it just kept on keeping on
                          So perhaps not that analogous to a Reid then.
                          I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                          We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                          • Markwebbos
                            Veterans List
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 7186

                            #43
                            Originally posted by stellation
                            Perhaps the same impulse that can lead people to buy multiple Datsun 120Ys in the hope they could salvage one good one out of the pieces?
                            Harvesting spare parts / organs from Sam for Ben eh. What's Joel Tippett up to these days?

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                            • CureTheSane
                              Carpe Noctem
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 5032

                              #44
                              Originally posted by mcs
                              My old man had a Datsun 120Y for about 15 years, gave it basically no service at all, and it just kept on keeping on
                              My 200B was like that.
                              I remember down the Mornington Peninsula one summer, I heard a funny noise from the engine. I stopped the car, popped the bonnet and realised it was the small amount of what that was left in the radiator boiling and bubbling.
                              Turned the engine back on, found a hose from the front yard of a house and topped it up and kept on going.
                              Fun times
                              The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                              • aardvark
                                Veterans List
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 5685

                                #45
                                I'd have thought Sam's more a Leyland P76.....

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