Match Day Rnd.10 Sydney V Hawthorn. 19.50 pm. SCG.

**Merdo5555** · 27 May 2017, 01:34 AM

Longmire doesn't go out and play he simply tells the team how to play. Okay boys stay 10 meters behind your opponent surely they won' try that uncontested style they have been using for 5 years. I means its not like a physical hotly contested game causes them to wilt in the second half is it.

Wonder how the players feel when they know the battle in the coaching box is going to be lost.

**Mug Punter** · 27 May 2017, 07:30 AM

Last night was disappointing and it galling to know we are not into June yet and our season is over.

But let's all take a deep breath before we call on Longmire to be sacked, I know we have a period of success here at the Swans but the sense of entitlement that some of us have almost makes me want to miss the finals

The only thing I ask from our players once I've calmed down from the disappointment of losing is they give 100% and they gave that last night.

We were two men down the majority of the game and that was a major factor, in fact I think they way we were able to come back was brilliant. I know it is the same for all teams but I really believe that there should be an extended bench with two medical emergencies (controlled by an independent Doctor) as for mine injuries play too big a role these days. In the old days players played through head knocks which thankfully they don't now but it clears the bench.

The Hawks were at their bullying best last night and were a bit hard and grizzled for our kids. And whilst they are a team in decline they can still play good footy and on their day they'll win a few more game sthis year.

Ultimately we didn't take our chances. Yes it was disappointing that Mills took the wrong option at the end but I'm not going to throw a kid in his second season under the bus for that defeat.

Looking forward it will be interesting to see how our list responds to the rest of the season. I expect efforts like the last four weeks, and I do include last night's effort, and if we get that then all we can do is try and get as many games into the likes of Hayward, Florent, Melican, Mills and the like

**S.S. Bleeder** · 27 May 2017, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by U.S. Swan

Horse does deserve criticism. Yes he won a flag, but it isn't like he inherited the Lions. He had the benefit of coaching a stacked side. This season is likely to be a fluke in many ways...the Swabs are still in MUCH better position than Hawthorn. But the Swans need to continue to push and improve the youngsters. Sure wish Cunningham was out there, too!

Absolutely. And if you want proof of his coaching ability you only need to look at how how he gets out-coached every single time we play the Hawks. The 2014 GF being the best example.

**S.S. Bleeder** · 27 May 2017, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by bodgie

Commentators insist Grundy is a goner but to me (my stream was not hi-def) his half-hearted raised elbow just got his shoulder.

Good to see our blokes being physical lately. We'll need that next time we make the finals.

No way should he go for that. Hodge raised his arm causing Regs arm to deflect upwards. It didn't touch his face. Hodge just milked it like all Scumthorn players do. I reckon they must spend an hour a week in acting classes as part of their training regime.

**Hotpotato** · 27 May 2017, 08:18 AM

Yup, the Hawks were all over us , notwithstanding they couldn't control the pure brilliance of Buddy. Big loss without him.
Any team with Mitchell, Burgoyne, Bruest , Hodge, Gunston etc ,if they turn up to play will still give you a good sight.
To their credit , Swans got back in it .
The one player I reckon would have made the difference is Alir .
There was just very little creative rebound and he's got it . He can also take a mark .
128 marks to 53 . Shikes , that's pretty crook.

**Hotpotato** · 27 May 2017, 08:26 AM

Maybe Millsy really did intend to go for goal, but running hard the kick just didn't come off (because there was no one in clear space to kick to ).
The bigger error was the kick across the Hawks goal to a danger zone , goal .
Dunno who that culprit was .
Don't do that, it's too generous a gift .

**barry** · 27 May 2017, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by mcs

By the way the rule is written, it was probably the right call. But as I said earlier, the rule stinks and should be changed. Just like the way they are pushing rules in other parts of the game, all it will do in time is discourage players having the courage to go for the ball and take possession, and that will be bad for the game.

Ignoring how the rule is drafted at the moment, I just don't understand what they want a player in Tower's situation to do. Surely they want players going hard to win the footy, as he did.

Towers had to make that play. It was either going to be play of the day or free kick.
Can't complain about umpiring though when we clearly won free kick count.

**Scottee** · 27 May 2017, 08:53 AM

Things that went wrong (no blame):
2 x 6 day breaks
2 x concussion = 2 players down
No protection from umpiring - sling tackles
4 goal difference attributable to umps
Hawks $7 the win ( I smell a number of rats)
Several very lethargic players (Mills, Parker standouts for me). Chasing and tackle pressure poor.
Not playing man on man from the start.
Misplaced agression. Roughing up Hawthorn at the start was not what was needed. Backing up your team mates when under attack was ( Tippett was left to battle 2 Hawks for a long time without any help from his team mates).
Exhausted players make mistakes. Easy to blame them but sometimes the body doesn't behave as one would normally expect.

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**barry** · 27 May 2017, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder

Absolutely. And if you want proof of his coaching ability you only need to look at how how he gets out-coached every single time we play the Hawks. The 2014 GF being the best example.

Don't forget 2012. He was the master that day.
The premiership we stuffed up was last year.

**Nico** · 27 May 2017, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by Hotpotato

Maybe Millsy really did intend to go for goal, but running hard the kick just didn't come off (because there was no one in clear space to kick to ).
The bigger error was the kick across the Hawks goal to a danger zone , goal .
Dunno who that culprit was .
Don't do that, it's too generous a gift .

Mills was running hard but kicked off one step once he gathered the footy. Had plenty of time to take a few more steps, steady and drill.

**Nico** · 27 May 2017, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by Markwebbos

I thought Towers slid in head first and his head made contact with his opponents legs, so I think head high contact cancels out contact below the knees and should have been play on.

If Towers initiated the head high then no, it is a free to the opposition.

**waswan** · 27 May 2017, 09:32 AM

Mills did this and that plays behind etc
Why are we waiting to turn him into a midfielder ????
GWS dont wait they play them
He is a top 3 pick
He is BODY ready put him in and again play the x factor defender you have in the ressies

**lwjoyner** · 27 May 2017, 10:16 AM

Swans to have first player suspended under new code. Jones punch while on the ground in a scrum, not sure who he his.
Talking of scrums is it time we drafted someone like Toumalolo ( not sure if spelt correctly) from Townville RL tam. The way OUR game is being played it more like RL everyday. Put the ball under the arm and try to crash the pack you will not give a free away , Gill the dill should have taken the RL ceo job .

**stevoswan** · 27 May 2017, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by barry

Towers had to make that play. It was either going to be play of the day or free kick.
Can't complain about umpiring though when we clearly won free kick count.

I can.....we didn't get one 'contentious' goal for the entire game, Hawks got at least two. In a game decided by a goal, we were shafted yet again......and I'm amazed we won the free kick count, because it didn't appear that way. The umpires should hand their heads in shame.....and so should Mills.

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Originally posted by Nico

If Towers initiated the head high then no, it is a free to the opposition.

Which is what is stupid about that rule, because 'initiating' the head high usually means you are courageously making the ball your object, the aim of the game....well, I thought it was anyway. Apparently courage isn't rewarded by the AFL/umpires these days......Stupid, stupid rule!!!

**Blood Fever** · 27 May 2017, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by stevoswan

I can.....we didn't get one 'contentious' goal for the entire game, Hawks got at least two. In a game decided by a goal, we were shafted yet again......and I'm amazed we won the free kick count, because it didn't appear that way. The umpires should hand their heads in shame.....and so should Mills.

I know it was only one moment in the game, but after watching a replay of the Burgoyne free kick in the last quarter, it was a shocking decision that gave them life. Not sure who umpire was.