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  • MattW
    Veterans List
    • May 2011
    • 4231

    Originally posted by BRISWAN
    Hi 707
    Loved your positive post
    Just wondering if you can do a comparison of last years team to this years team to clarify that we are a better team
    WHO ???
    Reid for Richards
    Melican for Laidler
    Hayward for McGlynn

    Papley, Hewett, Lloyd, Jones have developed.

    Mitchell out for Towers or Florent a diminution, but means Heeney plays in the middle and more speed out wide.

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    • Matty10
      Senior Player
      • Jun 2007
      • 1331

      As much as Papley's bump into Bugg after the Mills incident was a bit silly and we lost the ball because of his action, I absolutely love him for it. We need players to stand up to that sort of thing with a bit a passion.

      He ripped his shirt (which essentially branded him as the pariah that he is) and then put him on his backside - well done Paps.


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      • wolftone57
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2008
        • 5861

        Got to admit I was wrong. Macca was sensational. i was very worried after watching the reserves game again about his lack of pace. Sure that was a factor a couple of times but not too much because he didn't do much chasing. He generally drew the ball and used his unique skill set to beat his opponent to the ball and dodge and weave his way out of trouble. he combined very well with Lloyd, Jones, Newman and the other backs to provide a very strong close knit back half. Melican was good and better for having the 'old fella' there. macca gave him instruction a couple of times as to where to position himself and it worked soooo well.

        Bad Points; Our kicking for goal. Efficiency inside 50. That's it.
        Mills KO.

        Deliberate Out Of Bounds. What a joke. The way the umpires let opposition players throw the ball or just drop it down but if we do it we get penalised.

        Good Points; We won contested possession by so much I think Simon Goodwin would be embarrassed. They had a few out and if we kicked straight we would have won by 60 points or more.

        Form of Macca.

        The way our blokes are playing for each other. Sam Naismith was fantastic last night. He hurt them both physically and by what he did in play. His tap work was sensational and he managed to impact the play around the ground. He was also the first one to stand up for Mills. Good on you Sam. By the way our young blokes have plenty of mongrel.

        That goal Buddy kicked. Ok he kicks those pretty often and my nephew would say par for the course. But gee those shots don't get any less wonderful.

        Luke Parker. Back to his best. Some of his marks and moves were just unreal. he demolished the Dees.

        Our team, this was a full team effort. Plugger needs to give our forwards a kick in the proverbial. But at least they had the opportunity to have plenty of shots due to our incredible mids. Good on Georgie boy for his wonderful game. Towers did some really good work.

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        • CureTheSane
          Carpe Noctem
          • Jan 2003
          • 5032

          The goal kicking or lack there of, doesn't worry me so much.
          It happens, and imagine when it comes good.

          McVeigh was in top form.
          Interesting how well the back line worked without Mills down there.
          Could be a blessing in disguise in that if we have a strong back 6 in (mainly Rampe, but also Grundy and the other 'staples') then Mills should be made more free at times to play up the ground, which is where he is supposed to be by all accounts.
          The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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          • O'Reilly Boy
            Warming the Bench
            • Feb 2014
            • 474

            Originally posted by The Big Cat
            Rohan was terrific all night
            + 1 His best game since the prelim against the Shinboners in 2014 (which he played from half back rather than up the ground). His pressure game was terrific with consistent second and third efforts. If he had kicked straight?and he usually does?he would have been in top 5 on ground. The forward set up looked very good: Buddy staying down when Reid jumped, rather than spoiling each other. O Flo not there, so Hayward in for him next week if fit. I also though the one ruckman strategy paid off; against the Dons there were too many passages when Naismith and Sinclair were both on the ground lumbering around the midfield. I think that we sometimes forget that Naismith has only played 22 games! We also need to note Kizza's great game last night. Brilliant tackling and some neat kicks. Really impressive game across the park (except for kicking), and it feels like there is some good depth in the list now, particularly in the back half: Aliir, Marsh, the forgotten Laidler and Talia and, dare I say, AJ, across the back. I wonder how/whether Tippett will be able to break into the team at all: the team seems better balanced without the extra big. And I suspect that the Foote experiment might be over.

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            • mattybloods
              Warming the Bench
              • Jul 2016
              • 482

              The Mills incident and inaccurate kicking aside what a great match!!!

              The 2 players I was extremely happy with last night were;

              Naismith. Up against possibly the best Ruckman in the league by himself and matched him in just about all categories. Almost equal hitouts and disposals. Changes the dynamic for the team, we now know playing one ruckman isn't the end of the world (as long as its a fit Naismith) and we don't need to carry another into each game that has no impact around the ground or the forward line. I'd be happy for Tippett to come in playing forward after a few good games in the Ressies but Sinclair is depth only as far as I'm concerned.

              Jack. Back at his best. I thought he would struggle for the rest of the year and that he may well retire at seasons end due to his body. Looks like he is fit again and his impact really makes us a better team.

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              • Club 80
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Apr 2017
                • 149

                Originally posted by mattybloods
                The Mills incident and inaccurate kicking aside what a great match!!!

                The 2 players I was extremely happy with last night were;

                Naismith. Up against possibly the best Ruckman in the league by himself and matched him in just about all categories. Almost equal hitouts and disposals. Changes the dynamic for the team, we now know playing one ruckman isn't the end of the world (as long as its a fit Naismith) and we don't need to carry another into each game that has no impact around the ground or the forward line. I'd be happy for Tippett to come in playing forward after a few good games in the Ressies but Sinclair is depth only as far as I'm concerned.

                Jack. Back at his best. I thought he would struggle for the rest of the year and that he may well retire at seasons end due to his body. Looks like he is fit again and his impact really makes us a better team.
                Well coached by Longmire to allow Naismith to play a kick behind the play when the ball was in Swans attacking 50m. This meant that Naismith got a rest and Gawn got more fatigued and had to cover more ground. Parker was ok in ruck duels against Gawn in the attacking 50m.

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                • 707
                  Veterans List
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6204

                  Originally posted by BRISWAN
                  Hi 707, loved your positive post. Just wondering if you can do a comparison of last years team to this years team to clarify that we are a better team
                  WHO ???
                  Reid at CHF and saving games in the backline
                  Newman adds more class down back
                  Melican an adequate replacement for Ted
                  Hayward a gun in the making (doesn't turn 19 until after the season) for McGlynn
                  The improvement from a number of younger players, Lloyd, Jones, Papley etc and (now) return to form of older players like KJack & McVeigh
                  The development of more depth
                  Mitchell the only loss but has allowed a better midfield mix with Heeney, Papley and Jones in there more

                  Head to head 2016 to 2017, we are a better side now, it's why we are now on a winning streak similar to last year. Make no mistake, plenty of the top 8 teams are not happy to see us back in form again.

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                  • Industrial Fan
                    Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 3318

                    Newman has such great balance. After each marking contest seems to read the ball drop and keeps his feet.

                    Going to be a gun
                    He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                    • ROK Lobster
                      RWO Life Member
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 8658

                      Originally posted by wolftone57
                      Got to admit I was wrong. Macca was sensational.
                      I agree on both counts. I thought he was past it (but figured that he must direct others well etc, because I do not think that the Swans (or any club) are overly sentimental) but he was excellent last night.

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                      • BRISWAN
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 304

                        COULDNT AGREE MORE WITH YOUR OVERVIEW
                        Originally posted by 707
                        Reid at CHF and saving games in the backline
                        Newman adds more class down back
                        Melican an adequate replacement for Ted
                        Hayward a gun in the making (doesn't turn 19 until after the season) for McGlynn
                        The improvement from a number of younger players, Lloyd, Jones, Papley etc and (now) return to form of older players like KJack & McVeigh
                        The development of more depth
                        Mitchell the only loss but has allowed a better midfield mix with Heeney, Papley and Jones in there more

                        Head to head 2016 to 2017, we are a better side now, it's why we are now on a winning streak similar to last year. Make no mistake, plenty of the top 8 teams are not happy to see us back in form again.

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                        • aardvark
                          Veterans List
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 5685

                          Macca was good but he rarely had to chase. It will be interesting to see how he goes against GWS.

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                          • Bill Posters
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 259

                            Not sure what's going on with pluggers goal kicking training. I've noticed heaps of players - I think it was Newman yesterday - drifting one way in a massive "arc" then trying to hoik the ball back the other way. But pluggers style was very straight - slow runup and straight at the goal.

                            The arc thing seems to work for buddy but doesn't seem very logical to me.

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              It reminded me of that game a month or so ago where all our lesser lights (towers, McVeigh, Rohan, melican) played well making us look a million dollars.

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                              • S.S. Bleeder
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 2165

                                Originally posted by Matty10
                                As much as Papley's bump into Bugg after the Mills incident was a bit silly and we lost the ball because of his action, I absolutely love him for it. We need players to stand up to that sort of thing with a bit a passion.

                                He ripped his shirt (which essentially branded him as the pariah that he is) and then put him on his backside - well done Paps.


                                Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                                Agreed. We need someone in the team with a bit of $&)/ in them. That was a poor decision from the umpire.

                                Bugg coward punched a Swan in an incident which had it happened on the street would have resulted in charges of Intentionally Causing Injury. What did the umpire expect Papley to do?

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