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  • RogueSwan
    McVeigh for Brownlow
    • Apr 2003
    • 4602

    #46
    Originally posted by Beerman
    ... Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!
    Love this. I'm pinching it for my signature.
    "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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    • S.S. Bleeder
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2014
      • 2165

      #47
      Originally posted by Hotpotato
      Haven't watched the Saints much ...
      Are they much chop?
      Depends on whether the Aints of last week turn up or whether the Aints from the week prior turn up. Generally though they've been playing like a team in the lower eight.

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      • Hotpotato
        Senior Player
        • Jun 2014
        • 2267

        #48
        Originally posted by Beerman
        It would explain a lot. If that is the case. I think he has enough credits and is performing well enough that they will let him try and play through it as long as he thinks he can. Personally, I would prefer to see him "managed" for this game to see if he can get himself right for some of the very tough games coming up against Hawthorn, Adelaide and Geelong. (That's not to say I think we should expect victory against the Saints, but sometimes you have to take a chance to win big).

        Of I'm not a doctor and don't know anything about OP, or if resting him would even help. Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!
        So you've got a Docterate of Philosophy ?

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        Originally posted by Beerman
        It would explain a lot. If that is the case. I think he has enough credits and is performing well enough that they will let him try and play through it as long as he thinks he can. Personally, I would prefer to see him "managed" for this game to see if he can get himself right for some of the very tough games coming up against Hawthorn, Adelaide and Geelong. (That's not to say I think we should expect victory against the Saints, but sometimes you have to take a chance to win big).

        Of I'm not a doctor and don't know anything about OP, or if resting him would even help. Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!
        Oops : Doctorate

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        • goswannies
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2007
          • 3049

          #49
          Originally posted by Hotpotato
          So you've got a Docterate of Philosophy ?
          Sadly they just seem to hand those things out these days ...
          IMG_2250.JPG

          Originally posted by Beerman
          Of I'm not a doctor and don't know anything about OP, or if resting him would even help.
          You're in good company, even the doctors and physios can't consistently manage this condition, despite the training & knowledge.

          Unfortunately the pubic symphysis in one of the integral structures that (among other functions including allowing pelvic distortion during childbirth) provide some shock absorbing capacity to the pelvic ring during gait, running and kicking activities. However, once inflamed, it is very difficult to rest the pubic symphysis, as it's stressed even during normal gait (and compounded by higher impact activities). Moreover, true osteitis pubis is ideally treated early (analgesics, anti-inflams and managing physical workloads - the latter is particularly non-conducive for elite athletes) - the longer it is neglected the harder it is to treat.

          If there is to be a positive, it might be that vague central pelvic symptoms were often diagnosed as OP when it was a particularly fashionable diagnosis, and there was a high spate of them. I suspect that many were perhaps not. However, over recent years, there have been fewer incidents of OP (which I believe is potentially attributable to more accurate diagnosis - with imaging and symptom interpretation).

          Suffice to say a poorly manage OP can be career ending. Even a well managed case of OP can take months to recover (depending on severity, acuteness and effectiveness of rehab of course). But OP management of elite athletes has certainly improved IMO (for what that's worth).

          Hopefully, if it is OP, they have got onto it early for a better outcome.
          Last edited by goswannies; 20 July 2017, 01:15 AM.

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          • Beerman
            Regular in the Side
            • Oct 2010
            • 823

            #50
            Originally posted by Hotpotato
            So you've got a Doctorate of Philosophy ?
            Don't knock philosophy! I don't have a PhD (in philosophy or any other discipline), but I did study quite a few subjects at uni. You have to read heaps to avoid blathering nonsense or just repeating stuff that has already been said better elsewhere....ok, so maybe it did prepare me well for the internet.


            Originally posted by goswannies
            You're in good company, even the doctors and physios can't consistently manage this condition, despite the training & knowledge.
            Thanks for the info. Very interesting!

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            • Flying South
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2013
              • 585

              #51
              Originally posted by goswannies
              IMO (for what that's worth).
              Mate your medical opinion is immeasurable. We are lucky you have you on this site and I appreciate your input. Thanks Doc

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              • goswannies
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2007
                • 3049

                #52
                Originally posted by Flying South
                Mate your medical opinion is immeasurable. We are lucky you have you on this site and I appreciate your input. Thanks Doc
                Sorry, gotta pull you up there. Not a doc ('though there is at least one who posts here) ... just a physio I'm afraid
                Last edited by goswannies; 20 July 2017, 07:26 AM.

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                • goswannies
                  Senior Player
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 3049

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Beerman
                  Don't knock philosophy! I don't have a PhD (in philosophy or any other discipline),
                  Technically a PhD is in philosophy regardless of the discipline in which it is obtained (except the type that Eddie was gifted ... that's an "honorary" one)

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                  • Flying South
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 585

                    #54
                    Originally posted by goswannies
                    Sorry, gotta pull you up there. Not a doc ('though there is at least one who posts here) ... just a physio I'm afraid
                    As the eminent 'Dr' Alan Harper once said "Nonetheless, I am a healer"

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                    • royboy42
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 2077

                      #55
                      [QUOTE=goswannies;732620]Technically a PhD is in philosophy regardless of the discipline in which it is obtained (except the type that Eddie was gifted ... that's an "honorary" one)[/QUOTE

                      I was hoping the McGuire pic was photoshopped.
                      Imagine how the PhD's who actually earned the honorific feel about that!

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                      • goswannies
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 3049

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Flying South
                        As the eminent 'Dr' Alan Harper once said "Nonetheless, I am a healer"
                        Ahhhh "Dr" Harper chiropractic graduate from the esteemed University of Guadalajara

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                        • goswannies
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 3049

                          #57
                          [QUOTE=royboy42;732630]
                          Originally posted by goswannies
                          Technically a PhD is in philosophy regardless of the discipline in which it is obtained (except the type that Eddie was gifted ... that's an "honorary" one)[/QUOTE

                          I was hoping the McGuire pic was photoshopped.
                          Imagine how the PhD's who actually earned the honorific feel about that!
                          Not photoshopped, and the discussion of honorary doctorates is really for another forum. There are an abundance of lengthy threads on this topic. But 3-10 years of hard, poorly paid slog & stress might not be impressed by getting one for simply doing ones job. Some PhD graduates choose not to use the title. Fortunately many institutions decree that an honorary doctorate does not entitle the title of Dr to be used.

                          Back on topic

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                          • Billericay
                            Regular in the Side
                            • May 2013
                            • 712

                            #58
                            I've been trying to predict what will be announced at 6:25 tonight, and I really have no idea.

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                            • 707
                              Veterans List
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6204

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Billericay
                              I've been trying to predict what will be announced at 6:25 tonight, and I really have no idea.
                              It won't be Tippett, you can't play a guy who came off at half time last week injured and hasn't played a full game for 6-7 weeks. Horse just giving the media something to write.

                              Either no changes or Dawson in for someone.

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                              • Markwebbos
                                Veterans List
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 7186

                                #60
                                Reid does so many jobs for the Swans: including rucking and dropping back into defence for last 5 mins, he'll be difficult to replace.

                                I really hope Sinkers doesn't reappear. Maybe Towers can do all the pinch hitting in the ruck?

                                I really would like to see Dawson this week if Reid or Gaz are injured.

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