Match Day Thread Rnd 19 Hawthorn V Sydney. MCG. 19.50 pm.

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  • DA_Swan
    Warming the Bench
    • Feb 2010
    • 322

    So easy dropped marks , missed goals from easy set shots and giving a goal from a kickin is a coaching problem ?? Players need to stand up under pressure !! Players were talking a good game I hope they can deliver in the second half !!

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    • Billericay
      Regular in the Side
      • May 2013
      • 712

      Originally posted by Blue Sun
      We need to force the stoppages, play man on man. We can absolutely win, but need to play the game on our terms.
      Clarkson is making it hard to defend man on man by moving 2 forwards onto the ball. Think this is what is creating the mismatches with Roughy in particular

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      • Boddo
        Senior Player
        • Mar 2017
        • 1049

        Disorganised off hb/centre. No1 leading at the ball carrier from the forward half. Franklin is not a big contested mark forward n Sinclair has never been a contested mark so why bomb it long. Would have preferred Aliir as he allows more run off hb breaking lines. Need to stop playing Hawthorns game n play ours. Will reset at half time n win.

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        • Swannette
          Regular in the Side
          • Jan 2003
          • 832

          Aagh i dislike hawthorn.

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          Patterns emerge, but do they mean anything? No.

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          • Odysseus
            Warming the Bench
            • Aug 2016
            • 199

            From where I'm sitting - about 100 rows up! - we look static when we have control.
            I don't like blaming umpiring, but I've been bewildered a number of times.
            Still think we have a show, but we'll have to make fewer mistakes and move up a gear.

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            • crackedactor
              Regular in the Side
              • May 2012
              • 919

              Originally posted by WauchopeAnalyst
              Longmire has no idea how to beat Hawthorn. Another dumb ass plan 3-5m circles with 6 players in it.

              Hawthorn will always beat us on the outside as their spacings are great and they react on plan and voice knowing where everone is.

              We catch, look, think and try to dispose the ball we 14 defenders.

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              Why does our brains fly out the window when we play Hawthorn?? Ok bomb it in long but to our players advantage, either a bit left or bit right. not in the middle when there is a one to three setting in the goal square!!

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              • Swannette
                Regular in the Side
                • Jan 2003
                • 832

                Originally posted by Odysseus
                From where I'm sitting - about 100 rows up! - we look static when we have control.
                I don't like blaming umpiring, but I've been bewildered a number of times.
                Still think we have a show, but we'll have to make fewer mistakes and move up a gear.
                Holding thw ball appears only to apply to us

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                Patterns emerge, but do they mean anything? No.

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                • ugg
                  Can you feel it?
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15962

                  The Duryea shepherd is legal because he ran off his mark so it's play on. Mitchell standing just far enough away to not be called interfering before play on is called. It's incredibly smart thinking and we were asleep to it
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                  • dimelb
                    pr. dim-melb; m not f
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 6889

                    When we have the ball, Hawthorn plays our pressure game. When they have the ball, they chose their kicks and move it to goal range. Their skills are better and we don't apply enough pressure.
                    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                    • mcs
                      Travelling Swannie!!
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 8149

                      Originally posted by Swannette
                      Holding thw ball appears only to apply to us

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                      Been like it all season.. look at the 5 seconds of play last week in the middle with 2 identical htb circumstances. We got pinged, St Kilda didn't. There has been several occasions where the hawks could of got pinged exactly the same as Parker did in the first quarter. We did get a couple late in the 2nd quarter though.
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                      • Faunac8
                        Senior Player
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 1548

                        To quote a wise man we simply need to " have a go you mug "
                        So far not hard enough and not assionate enough.
                        We will prevail

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                        • dejavoodoo44
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 8494

                          I think that at least some of the players got into a negative state of mind, due firstly to the late withdrawals and then the same old crap umpiring that we always get against the mustard on turd. Seemed to affect our two way running, tackling and intensity. Need to put that to rest and put in a manic second half.

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                          • Meg
                            Go Swannies!
                            Site Admin
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 4828

                            Originally posted by dimelb
                            When we have the ball, Hawthorn plays our pressure game. When they have the ball, they chose their kicks and move it to goal range. Their skills are better and we don't apply enough pressure.
                            Yes and yes.

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                            • 707
                              Veterans List
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6204

                              Originally posted by mcs
                              I'd like an explanation as its a tactic the Hawks have used for 2 years against us, on multiple occasions to great success. I don't understand how it is permissible within the rules as they currently stand. But as I say, I don't know the rules in that space that well, and would love to see an explanation exactly of what is allowable and what isn't. I just can't see how that is allowed, well apart from the fact its in a game involving Stevic and the Hawks...
                              The kicking player runs out sideways, umpire calls play, player guarding the mark player rushes in to push them out of the way. It's legal whilst they allow an opposition player to be close to the mark. We need to be awake to it.

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                              • dejavoodoo44
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 8494

                                Well, that's a handy start.

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