2018 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • MattW
    Veterans List
    • May 2011
    • 4193

    Newman to Carlton for their 2019 4th rd.

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    • Auntie.Gerald
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2009
      • 6474

      Only two first round picks

      Hmmmm gws done good
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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      • Auntie.Gerald
        Veterans List
        • Oct 2009
        • 6474

        Now lies get beams

        Faaaaaark me

        We have fallen off the bandwagon !!!

        No doubt

        So far behind the cavalry

        Fairly angry to say the least

        Newman to Blues
        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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        • Nico
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 11328

          Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
          Now lies get beams

          Faaaaaark me

          We have fallen off the bandwagon !!!

          No doubt

          So far behind the cavalry

          Fairly angry to say the least

          Newman to Blues
          If we don't have the capacity to pay and there is not a player that can fit into our side then stiff bickies. So we didn't get a big fish, big deal. So others have said; don't trade for the sake of it. They clearly rate Nick Blakey very highly, and at no stage were going to jeopardise getting him.

          I am glad we let Newman go. He is soft and clearly over rates himself and was not happy because he wasn't getting a game.
          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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          • Melbourne_Blood
            Senior Player
            • May 2010
            • 3312

            Pies and dons have both given up a bit , trading out of the first round of two drafts is a risky move


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            • Auntie.Gerald
              Veterans List
              • Oct 2009
              • 6474

              Publicly disclosed and keen

              Langdon
              Moore
              Vandenberg
              Duryea

              Nil

              I’m ok with angry

              I’m angry

              So angry

              All teams around top 8 have advanced

              We have not

              For me extremely dissatisfied with trade week

              Can anyone say massively forefilled with trade week vs our opposition????
              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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              • Foreign Legion
                Senior Player
                • Feb 2003
                • 3315

                And the Pies get Beams as well - they seem to have a bottomless pit of money along with Hawthorn - a joke really - everyone knows it can't be above board.

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                • Nico
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 11328

                  Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                  Pies and dons have both given up a bit , trading out of the first round of two drafts is a risky move


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                  They clearly think they are a big chance for a flag in 2019.
                  http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    I posted this earlier. I was stunned that this is possible, or am I missing something?

                    How Hawthorn Hawks got Tom Scully in “greatest giveaway of all-time” https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/10/...y-of-all-time/

                    “It is a risk, but at the same time, if he does have an injury that allows him to never play again, the payments they make for Tom Scully will fall outside the salary cap.”

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                    • 707
                      Veterans List
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6204

                      Originally posted by Markwebbos
                      I posted this earlier. I was stunned that this is possible, or am I missing something?

                      How Hawthorn Hawks got Tom Scully in “greatest giveaway of all-time” How Hawthorn Hawks got Tom Scully in “greatest giveaway of all-time”

                      “It is a risk, but at the same time, if he does have an injury that allows him to never play again, the payments they make for Tom Scully will fall outside the salary cap.”
                      Something like what we did with Tippett. It's not all outside the cap but there are set rules for paying out contracts and how the $ are counted in the cap.

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                      • AB Swannie
                        Senior Player
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 1579

                        Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald

                        All teams around top 8 have advanced
                        Injuries aside and draft aside:

                        1. West Coast - In: Hickey Out: Lycett. Slightly worse.
                        2. Collingwood - In: Beams & Roughead Out: Fasolo out. Better
                        3. Richmond - In: Lynch Out: Ellis, Myles, Conca, Lloyd, Stengle. Better but reduced depth.
                        4. Melbourne - In: May, Kolodjashnij, Preuss Out: Hogan, Tyson, Kent. Probably slightly better.
                        5. Hawthorn - In: Wingard, Scully, Scrimshaw Out: Burton, Duryea. A lot depends on Scully's health but overall better. Burton is a big price to pay.
                        6. GWS - In: Nil Out: Shiel, Scully, Lobb, Setterfield WOW. Massively worse.
                        7. Swans - In: Clarke, Thurlow Out: Hannebery, Rohan, Newman. Treading water.
                        8. Geelong - In: Dahlhaus, Rohan, Kreuger Out: Thurlow, Horlin-Smith, McCarthy. Slightly better.
                        9. North Melbourne - In: Polec, Tyson, Pittard, Hall Out: Preuss, Clarke. Better.
                        10. Port Adelaide - In: Lycett, Burton, Mayes Out: Wingard, Polec, Pittard, Hombsch. Slightly Worse
                        11. Essendon - In: Shiel Out: Colyer. Better
                        12. Adelaide - In: McAdam, Stengle Out: McGovern. Worse.

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                        • Markwebbos
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          The Hun's summary of trade week winners and losers: Category: | Herald Sun

                          GEELONG

                          It’s still hard to see what role Gary Rohan plays, but no one can doubt he has huge talent.

                          SYDNEY SWANS

                          IN: Picks No.26, 39, 40, Jackson Thurlow, Ryan Clarke, Carlton’s future second and fourth-round picks

                          OUT: Pick No.13, 70, Dan Hannebery, Gary Rohan, Nic Newman

                          DRAFT PICKS: 26, 33, 38, 39, 40, 88

                          JON RALPH SAYS: The Swans ultimately did exactly what GWS did — ease salary cap issues — but without the fanfare. They traded away Dan Hannebery and got back very little for him, moved on Gary Rohan amid anger from the player himself and in the end failed to lure Darcy Moore despite months of conjecture. In the end they ended up bringing in Cats defender Jackson Thurlow for a late pick as well as fringe Roos midfield Ryan Clarke. The positive was bringing in heaps of points to secure father-son Nick Blakey, who will be a jet next year. But securing five picks between 26 and 40 doesn’t get the pulses racing. Like GWS, the lack of COLA is clearly biting for Sydney too.

                          GRADE: C

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                          • Bill Posters
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 259

                            So are the hawks and pies chucking all their draft chips in to aim for a premiership in the next couple of years? According to the draft guide on the afl website hawks have got picks 53 and 90, not much long term planning there.

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                            • Auntie.Gerald
                              Veterans List
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6474

                              C it is
                              Not A
                              Not B
                              But C

                              Not a very positive trajectory

                              Negative in fact

                              That’s the facts
                              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                              • 707
                                Veterans List
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 6204

                                A number of other clubs have burnt this years and next years picks in trades, some will pay off, some won't. I stick by my earlier post, no point trading just for the sake of it.

                                We have obviously taken steps to correct salary cap issues leaving us in a very good position next year plus extra picks in hand.

                                If Blakey is as good as all the pundits say, we've done well, in some ways we've upgraded from pick 13 to pick 7 in a super draft and strengthened our later picks plus added 2019 picks.

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                                Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                                C it is
                                Not A
                                Not B
                                But C

                                Not a very positive trajectory

                                Negative in fact

                                That’s the facts
                                Auntie, go to the top shelf and crack a really good red, glug it down and you'll feel much better!

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