2018 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 15963

    Totally agree. I’d rather give a chance to Mitch Maguire than Wicks.
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    • caj23
      Senior Player
      • Aug 2003
      • 2462

      Agreed Ugg a pretty underwhelming rookie draft

      If we’re going to take some long shots I’d prefer we use those picks on local players and put something back into the local comp

      Reynolds highlights are pretty underwhelming

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      • 707
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2009
        • 6204

        From the AFL website, names three of the better players overlooked in the ND and we took two of the three.

        "Some of the better overlooked players in the national draft such as Harry Reynolds (Sydney), Durak Tucker (Sydney) and Tom McKenzie (North Melbourne) were listed by clubs."

        One has to have confidence in the selections, the recruiters see these players all the time, we mostly know them as names and read some third party blurb. Taking injured players is not much of a risk, you get them at a discount and they aren't needed year one anyway.

        For those that say Ling was a reach last year, I revisited a couple of the reputable phantoms and he was only 2-3 spots above where expected.

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        • wolftone57
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2008
          • 5838

          Originally posted by lwjoyner
          does this mean we have 39 players on list 8 on 8 of incl ronke upgrade but not fax
          We took 7, two in the trade, 1 in the post trade and 4 in the Draft. We had eight spots if we wanted to only have 38 on the Seniors list. But we might go 39. That would see us upgrade Ronke and Fox. We de-listed 3 rookies and if we upgrade 2 that leaves 4 spots if we go that way. We have 3 new 'A' Rookies including Tippett and 1 new category 'b' Rookie in Sam Wicks. List complete.

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          • wolftone57
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2008
            • 5838

            Originally posted by caj23
            Can't say I'm really sold on our 2nd and 3rd selections (with my limited knowledge of the young talent), but I really like Foot, there's just something about the way he moves and the options he takes that makes me think he's going to be a really good player
            I love Rowbottom's reel. strong, good tackler, good delivery, makes very good decisions, is quick for an inside mid. His averages were very good too. As far as the experts go they say he was the second best inside mid in the draft and I trust that more than you. Sorry.

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            • rb4x
              Regular in the Side
              • Dec 2007
              • 968

              Tucker was out for the year with an ACL but before that was lightning fast. Reynolds also with injury issues. At least we can place Tippett on the Inactive List and replace him from the SSP. We have until March to do that but you would think if we intend to take a replacement then we would want them in pre-season training. By my reckoning we have 39 on the Senior List, 5 Cat A rookies (includes Tippett) and 2 Cat B rookies. Only spare spot would have been another Cat B rookie. I have no idea under the new rules if we can fill that at any time apart from International signings.

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              • AB Swannie
                Senior Player
                • Mar 2017
                • 1579

                This is a promising read on Durak:

                Durak Tucker - AFL Draft Central

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                • Ludwig
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9359

                  There is only a question as to whether Robbie Fox has been upgraded to the primary list as there has never been a formal announcement of an upgrade, just reported as so in 1 or 2 articles from other websites. There was an opportunity to make a statement in Robbie Fox's review posted on 2 November, but no mention of an upgrade. I suppose there will be full lists of every club at some point in the not too distant future.

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                  • Markwebbos
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                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    Originally posted by wolftone57
                    I love Rowbottom's reel. strong, good tackler, good delivery, makes very good decisions, is quick for an inside mid. His averages were very good too. As far as the experts go they say he was the second best inside mid in the draft and I trust that more than you. Sorry.
                    He sounds like the sort of player we have been crying out for. Inside mid with some explosiveness. If that’s a word.

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                    • Melbourne_Blood
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2010
                      • 3312

                      Originally posted by Markwebbos
                      He sounds like the sort of player we have been crying out for. Inside mid with some explosiveness. If that’s a word.
                      I agree too, I watched his clip earlier in the week when the BT article popped up and thought he is quicker than the average inside mid and Seemed to have a knack for finding a target with his quick hands out of trouble. Like a quicker Mitchell in a way. Not unhappy with him , maybe he wasn’t a pick 25 but I’ll have him.


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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        Durak Tucker ran 2.84 for 20m last year which would make him by far the quickest player in this years draft.

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                        • S.S. Bleeder
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 2165

                          Originally posted by Ludwig
                          The list numbers are right. It seems that it's left to each club to report on rookie elevations and Cat B selections.

                          I'm a bit surprised that we didn't take a KPP with any of the selections after Blakey. We went for a lot of the same type of player. Everyone has to be quick these days to get on the Swans' list.

                          It may well have been Rowbottom that we wanted in the draft and initiated the pick swap to put us into a position to draft him. We could have taken Valente if we wanted a JPK type midfielder, but Rowbottom can break from the pack with pace, something that we are missing right now, except for Jones.

                          I think we are well placed to make a run for the flag in 2026.
                          2026? ????

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                          • Aprilbr
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 1803

                            The Swans certainly don't get caught up in drafting players that are highly touted if they think there is a better prospect available that they have spotted but is less well known. This and last year's draft selections illustrate this perfectly. I have little doubt that Blakey will be a gun.

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                            • ugg
                              Can you feel it?
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15963

                              So there’s still time to add players to the rookie list. Perhaps this is what we are doing with the other guys by seeing how they fare in pre season training before committing to them.

                              The sole hope remaining for those not picked up on Friday is now the Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP), introduced only last week, which enables clubs to sign players to their rookie list from December 1 through until March 15 next year.
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                              • MattW
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                                • May 2011
                                • 4197

                                Rowbottom looks a cracker. I know these draft highlights videos need to be taken with a grain of salt, but in each play he went hard at the ball and moved quickly, with innovation, once he had it. He seems to have an inside and outside game - winning it out of contested situations, but also accepting handball receives at pace.

                                Blakey just looks a beast. Bigger than his opponents, powerful, uncompromising. He looks a winner, with self-belief and determination.

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