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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    Originally posted by Swansongster
    Very interesting. This article tells a great truth about junior development in all sports. I have seen exactly the same principle at play in junior hockey (field) development that I am involved with through my kids. There's some gems that come from a long way back when they do finally get the coaching and opportunity to play with like-skilled players.

    That is probably where our recruiting team excels and anecdotally out-performs some of the others. Instead of looking at who everyone else has always said are the best players, we identify the raw ingredients that can be developed through intensive work in our proven system.
    The impression I get with the swans is we are very good at recruiting players already on AFL lists, and not so good at getting players via the draft.
    So, not sure if we are using this knowledge of junior development to our benefit yet.

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    • stevoswan
      Veterans List
      • Sep 2014
      • 8543

      Our thoughts are on Ireland as well......Kinnear went over recently to the Irish Combine.

      Swans, Roos and Dons head to Ireland on scouting mission - AFL.com.au

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      • 0918330512
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2011
        • 1654

        Originally posted by barry
        The impression I get with the swans is we are very good at recruiting players already on AFL lists, and not so good at getting players via the draft.
        So, not sure if we are using this knowledge of junior development to our benefit yet.
        We (the Swans) might not use high picks that well, but I reckon we do just fine with the mid & late ones

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        • 707
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2009
          • 6204

          Originally posted by stevoswan
          Our thoughts are on Ireland as well......Kinnear went over recently to the Irish Combine.

          Swans, Roos and Dons head to Ireland on scouting mission - AFL.com.au
          After re watching COR's games this year, in my mind he should be starting 22 so we need at least one more Irishman to be developing, why not take a couple!

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          • caj23
            Senior Player
            • Aug 2003
            • 2462

            Originally posted by 707
            After re watching COR's games this year, in my mind he should be starting 22 so we need at least one more Irishman to be developing, why not take a couple!
            Tadgh aside we haven't really fared well with our Irish recruits compared to other clubs, I assumed we'd just shelved the idea.

            Hopefully COR makes some further progress in 2019

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            • rb4x
              Regular in the Side
              • Dec 2007
              • 968

              I had a look at AFL Draft central phantom draft and they had:

              St Kilda taking Tucker at 47 and Foot at 58
              Richmond getting Reynolds at 59
              Sydney getting Blakey at 6
              Essendon getting Rowbottom at 37

              Great to know that this draft done by a consortium really rated Tucker and Reynolds and that Blakey was a steal. Rowbottom they would have not getting through to our next pick if we had not dealt with West Coast. Only player missing is McInerney but they only did four rounds and no rookie draft.

              2018 AFL Draft Central Phantom Draft - AFL Draft Central

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              • goswannies
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2007
                • 3048

                Rampe signs until 2022

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                • 707
                  Veterans List
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6204

                  Originally posted by goswannies
                  Rampe signs until 2022
                  That's done nice and early, comes out of contract same time as Buddy :-)

                  What other big names need re-signing during 2019?

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                  • Aprilbr
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2016
                    • 1803

                    I believe that Zac Jones will come out of contract at the end of this coming season.

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                    • KSAS
                      Senior Player
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 1768

                      Originally posted by Aprilbr
                      I believe that Zac Jones will come out of contract at the end of this coming season.

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                      Zac Jones is to get his wish & play midfield next season. It's his chance to shine and take that next step with his development. If he has good season, I personally think he'll re-sign and stay because he now has a greater opportunity to develop further with us as a midfielder than if he went join his brother at Melbourne, as they now bat deep in that department.

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                      • ugg
                        Can you feel it?
                        Site Admin
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15961

                        This is a video of the Suns’s room during draft night. It shows that they strongly suspected, even possibly knew for sure, that the Swans were going to select McLennan with the second round pick we got from West Coast. Is explains why they gave up so much to move ahead of us

                        DRAFT NIGHT DRAMA: Suns play high-stakes game to get their man - AFL.com.au
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                        • liz
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                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16737

                          Originally posted by ugg
                          This is a video of the Suns’s room during draft night. It shows that they strongly suspected, even possibly knew for sure, that the Swans were going to select McLennan with the second round pick we got from GWS. Is explains why they gave up so much to move ahead of us

                          DRAFT NIGHT DRAMA: Suns play high-stakes game to get their man - AFL.com.au
                          I noticed someone (I think it was Dew) question (sensibly) whether they wanted McLennan because they wanted him, or just because they thought another club (ie Sydney) was ultra keen on him. He got the answer he was looking for, but it was good to see him challenging the group.

                          As I said earlier in this thread, I have no idea whether Sydney were as keen on McLennan as the Suns were convinced we were, and none of knows how the careers of the players will pan out. But I'm pretty happy we used that second pick on an inside midfielder (a major list need) rather than a medium sized half-back flanker. Especially as we picked up a few of that type later in the drafts, and we drafted two last year. And many of the other reasonably well-regarded ( in the media, at least) inside midfielders were picked soon after we chose Rowbottom, so there's no guarantee the club could have used their next pick to draft a player of that ilk that they rated.

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                          • ScottH
                            It's Goodes to cheer!!
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 23665

                            Originally posted by 707
                            After re watching COR's games this year, in my mind he should be starting 22 so we need at least one more Irishman to be developing, why not take a couple!
                            I only remember his game agasint the Roos, and the NEAFL GF.
                            Played well enough in the seniors to see he is not out of his league, and was outstanding in the GF under extreme pressure.

                            I hope to see more of him in the seniors this year.

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                            • Aprilbr
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2016
                              • 1803

                              Clearly it's a make or break year for COR.

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                              • 707
                                Veterans List
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 6204

                                Ireland quoted as saying after Hanners, Rohan & Tippett going that we've got room to chase a big fish.

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