Changes for Round 6 v Geelong

[aardvark]

All those complaining about Horse not having a plan B and being too stubborn to change from his set ways, well shut up, because he's really gone radical now!

We're about to find out why he never uses plan B. He might be more astute than I give him credit for.

[Plugger1300]

There must be a ruck and a forward plan given the outs and which ins they chose.

All those complaining about Horse not having a plan B and being too stubborn to change from his set ways, well shut up, because he's really gone radical now!

It's his in game decisions that are the worry. Too slow or won't change players/structure when the game needs it.
Not sure you can praise him for this team selection but i admit i'm interested in what they have planned.
Hopefully even if we lose we can some new perspective on players and team format

[aardvark]

so I can't see how it will work unless Sinclair plays forward, being that lead-up option to the wings to provide contests, taking the centre bounces and then going back forward. Around the ground then a combination of players including Parker can be that defensive body at the ball-ups etc.

I hope poor old Sinkers has his weety bix for breaky. He's going to be a busy boy.

[The Runner]

Well the mobile site sucks for editing posts...

Ridiculous that Scott Selwood is even playing. It is as if all the work done on concussions in the last decade has gone out the window over the last week.

The ruck is not as big an issue as people are making it out. They are playing Stanley (who is mediocre at best in the ruck), with Bliclavs as support (who is best suited to 3rd man up). So pinch hitters around the ground are ok. You'd think Sinclair would do every centre clearance.

Very surprised Robinson is in over Newman, Aliir and others. He seems to be a favourite that is in whenever he is fit. He won't be rucking (6ft tall and rather light), so you'd think he is replacing Hanners running capacity. Mills to the middle to allow Parker/Kennedy/Jack more forward time, with Ronke spending most time there too.

[Markwebbos]

GWS are only playing Patton with no recognised ruckman against Brisbane / Stefan Martin this weekend. Interesting times

[AnnieH]

No Towers???
OMG, I never thought I'd ever say this, BUT, OMG... that's a big loss.
I hope they prove me wrong, but it's not looking good for a win kiddies.

[liz]

It's not just the ruck where height will be an issue. According to Cordy in the HS, Geelong have 10 players over 190cm tall in their side, to our three. But that three includes JPK, who is currently listed on the Swans' site at 190cm but might have been standing on tiptoes, because I think he's previously been listed at 188cm.

All those bombed balls out of defence are just going to be marked by Geelong, unless they can all miraculously be aimed at Heeney and he breaks the record for contested marks.

[Markwebbos]

If the team selection gave us the opportunity to blood a few kids (Ronke aside) or get AA back in to re-establish himself, then I would have taken a vastly improved midfield performance and an honourable loss.

Really hope some players put their hands up in the NEAFL this week

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It's not just the ruck where height will be an issue. According to Cordy in the HS, Geelong have 10 players over 190cm tall in their side, to our three. But that three includes JPK, who is currently listed on the Swans' site at 190cm but might have been standing on tiptoes, because I think he's previously been listed at 188cm.

All those bombed balls out of defence are just going to be marked by Geelong, unless they can all miraculously be aimed at Heeney and he breaks the record for contested marks.

Like the Crows game you mean? Surely they?ll have to use different means to exit defensive 50. If Hawkins is playing that would help.

[MattW]

Planning to completely concede the ruck contest is better than going with someone who will compete but get badly beaten. Then at least all your midfielders are setting up to rove the opposition ruckman, and/or blanket their midfielders at ground level - and you just need someone manning the opposition ruckman to force them to tap the ball (ie. prevent them from just taking the ball out of the ruck, they can't do that if someone is right there waiting to tackle them).

We're not skilled enough, and not in good enough form in any case, to play a chip-it-around possession game, so I can't see how it will work unless Sinclair plays forward, being that lead-up option to the wings to provide contests, taking the centre bounces and then going back forward. Around the ground then a combination of players including Parker can be that defensive body at the ball-ups etc.

Good post.

[MattW]

It's not just the ruck where height will be an issue. According to Cordy in the HS, Geelong have 10 players over 190cm tall in their side, to our three. But that three includes JPK, who is currently listed on the Swans' site at 190cm but might have been standing on tiptoes, because I think he's previously been listed at 188cm.

All those bombed balls out of defence are just going to be marked by Geelong, unless they can all miraculously be aimed at Heeney and he breaks the record for contested marks.

Also a good post. I wouldn't rule out Heeney breaking that record this weekend, by the way. Aliir played that long kick target role pretty well a couple of weeks ago; shame he hasn't been given another crack at it.

[The Runner]

It's not just the ruck where height will be an issue. According to Cordy in the HS, Geelong have 10 players over 190cm tall in their side, to our three. But that three includes JPK, who is currently listed on the Swans' site at 190cm but might have been standing on tiptoes, because I think he's previously been listed at 188cm.

All those bombed balls out of defence are just going to be marked by Geelong, unless they can all miraculously be aimed at Heeney and he breaks the record for contested marks.

Looking at their team, I wouldn't call it tall. It might be a lot of 190-194cm mids

[stevoswan]

There must be a ruck and a forward plan given the outs and which ins they chose.

All those complaining about Horse not having a plan B and being too stubborn to change from his set ways, well shut up, because he's really gone radical now!

I believe most of those you refer to mean 'during the game', not at the selection table, ie: if the opposition have a different set up or game plan to what we are expecting, we don't adapt (like Hawthorn used to, often without instruction).

[Melbourne_Blood]

Just so I know what to shout when he kicks 7 and applies intense forward pressure that ends up in us winning , is it pronounced Ronk, or Ronkee? A video on the swans website had it pronounced Ronk. In all seriousness though I quite enjoy going into a game expecting to lose comfortably , it means there?s not too many chances for disappointment.


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[liz]

Just so I know what to shout when he kicks 7 and applies intense forward pressure that ends up in us winning , is it pronounced Ronk, or Ronkee? A video on the swans website had it pronounced Ronk. In all seriousness though I quite enjoy going into a game expecting to lose comfortably , it means there?s not too many chances for disappointment.


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Before you get too gloomy, bear in mind that the Cats have quite a few of their best 22 out as well - Ablett, Menzel, Taylor and Henderson, plus I wouldn't be surprised to see Scott Selwood pulled from the team.

Our injuries are crueller in the sense that, Hanners aside, they are concentrated amongst our tall players - Naismith, Reid, Buddy, Melican, Towers (in the sense he "plays tall" as our backup ruckman). Plus Tippett of course.

You can certainly mount an argument that we rely on Buddy more than any other team relies on a single player (though I'd be interested to see how Richmond go without Martin). But in terms of sheer numbers missing, we're worse off than Geelong but only just.

I share your lack of expectation that we can win this game, but I'm kind of looking forward to seeing how the team goes about things, and hopeful that a couple of players might lift in unexpected ways to make up for the absentees.

[ugg]

Just so I know what to shout when he kicks 7 and applies intense forward pressure that ends up in us winning , is it pronounced Ronk, or Ronkee? A video on the swans website had it pronounced Ronk. In all seriousness though I quite enjoy going into a game expecting to lose comfortably , it means there?s not too many chances for disappointment.


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Based on on field chat his teammates have been calling him Ronk, although maybe that?s just short for Ronke the same way Ramps is short for rampe