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  • Markwebbos
    Veterans List
    • Jul 2016
    • 7186

    #61
    AJ confirmed as IN

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    • mcs
      Travelling Swannie!!
      • Jul 2007
      • 8177

      #62
      Originally posted by Markwebbos
      AJ confirmed as IN
      Like x 10 million! We need some good news at the club, and this certainly fits the bill!

      What a story of commitment, persistence and hard work. Irrespective of the broader results, what an effort just to get back to AFL level.
      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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      • Plugger46
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2003
        • 3674

        #63
        Fantastic. I think our current woes have helped him but you need a bit of luck in life. Good on him.
        Bloods

        "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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        • Swanny40519
          Regular in the side.
          • Oct 2012
          • 469

          #64
          Originally posted by Markwebbos
          AJ confirmed as IN
          Fantastic news. Hope a huge crowd gets there to give him a big cheer.

          We need something to cheer about.

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          • wolftone57
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2008
            • 5861

            #65
            Originally posted by Markwebbos
            After what's happened this year, I understand where he's coming from.

            Everyone (including me) called for Hanners, Jack, Rohan etc to be dropped. Then they all got went out of the team and we've lost 2 out of 3 games since. Our team v Essendon seemed to be full of inexperienced kids who aren't physically ready to play extended time at AFL level and don't yet know how to put together a 4 quarter performance or play the Swans "brand".

            It's definitely a gamble. Longmire is between a rock and a hard place. Horse knows that the older players have delivered in the past, and must believe less than 100% they may offer more than some of the kids fully fit.

            But its not exactly a vote of confidence in Robinson, Towers, Foote and those currently playing well in the NEAFL.
            Mark the problem is the Hannas has not offered more than the kids this year. Macca sure. But Hannas has been too restricted to offer anything much. Jack is finished I think. Sad but the game has caught up with him. He goes to ground when tackled and there is only one of two ways the decision is going to go, holding the ball or incorrect disposal.

            To bring these three blokes in underdone is a huge risk and if it doesn't come off we are getting a huge hiding because Pies will have virtually three loose players for the whole match. By that I mean they won't be able to chase. Hannas can't anyway and if he hasn't trained and that means he can't train. I know the only way, other than an operation, Osteitis Pubis can be treated is with rest but generally after the rest period the player starts full training before being declared fit. Hannas has not done this and I doubt very much whether anything has changed from his previous efforts to play, which were disastrous. Macca is the closest to being able to have input but he hadn't entered full training as of last weekend. kizza is the closest as he has entered full training.

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            • S.S. Bleeder
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2014
              • 2165

              #66
              Great news for AJ. I doubted that it would ever happen. Looking forward to seeing him build up a bit of form over the next few weeks and hopefully being in our starting 22 next year.

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              • barry
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 8499

                #67
                Good decision selectors.

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  #68
                  Originally posted by wolftone57
                  Mark the problem is the Hannas has not offered more than the kids this year. Macca sure. But Hannas has been too restricted to offer anything much. Jack is finished I think. Sad but the game has caught up with him. He goes to ground when tackled and there is only one of two ways the decision is going to go, holding the ball or incorrect disposal.

                  To bring these three blokes in underdone is a huge risk and if it doesn't come off we are getting a huge hiding because Pies will have virtually three loose players for the whole match. By that I mean they won't be able to chase. Hannas can't anyway and if he hasn't trained and that means he can't train. I know the only way, other than an operation, Osteitis Pubis can be treated is with rest but generally after the rest period the player starts full training before being declared fit. Hannas has not done this and I doubt very much whether anything has changed from his previous efforts to play, which were disastrous. Macca is the closest to being able to have input but he hadn't entered full training as of last weekend. kizza is the closest as he has entered full training.
                  That's what I meant by between a rock and a hard place - kids too young, oldies no good. I can't imagine it's a good idea Hanners should play as you point out. Macca yes. Jack hmmmm he's been poor all year. I really think this is his last throw of the dice, including AJ. If we lose this, as I expect, I think they'll take a more long term approach.

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                  • neilfws
                    Senior Player
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1834

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Markwebbos
                    AJ confirmed as IN
                    I wonder to what extent "everyone needs a psychological lift" plays a part in team selection. Or is it really just the best options for the circumstances, every week

                    Regardless, this is great and I'm sure there will be a huge cheer for his name on Saturday and another for his first touch.

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                    • Captain
                      Captain of the Side
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 3602

                      #70
                      Absolutely brilliant news!

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                      • mcs
                        Travelling Swannie!!
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 8177

                        #71
                        Originally posted by neilfws
                        I wonder to what extent "everyone needs a psychological lift" plays a part in team selection. Or is it really just the best options for the circumstances, every week

                        Regardless, this is great and I'm sure there will be a huge cheer for his name on Saturday and another for his first touch.
                        His last handful of games in the NEAFL have been pretty good - it was almost a case of if it was going to happen it would be soon, given he is in the best form he has been since the original injury, and we are getting towards bare bones across the list anyway with injuries etc. Still no doubt the physiological lift certainly probably had a role to do with making the call. Its now up to AJ to see if he can cement a place in the first 22 as we all hope he can.
                        "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                        • waswan
                          Senior Player
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 2047

                          #72
                          I get the point about bringing in underperforming oldies but we arent winning
                          Kids only hold out vets in a winning side
                          Id back any vet atm over who we would have come out
                          Desperate times desperate measures

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                          • TopEndSwan
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 13

                            #73
                            Amazing news about AJ. Well done to him and the club. I saw him play in the NEAFL in Darwin a few weeks back and he was easily the most vocal of all the players, pumping up the team with his expletive-laden enthusiasm.

                            But the question I’ve got is who does he replace? Jones has been rubbed out, but it’s unlikely AJ is coming in for him.

                            The most likely option is Grundy.

                            Or, maybe Horse will spring another surprise and put Allir as a marking forward to replace the tired McCartin.

                            Or perhaps Allir is injured himself. Didn’t he come off last week for a bit to get his legs checked

                            Thoughts?

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                            • mcs
                              Travelling Swannie!!
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 8177

                              #74
                              Originally posted by TopEndSwan
                              Amazing news about AJ. Well done to him and the club. I saw him play in the NEAFL in Darwin a few weeks back and he was easily the most vocal of all the players, pumping up the team with his expletive-laden enthusiasm.

                              But the question I’ve got is who does he replace? Jones has been rubbed out, but it’s unlikely AJ is coming in for him.

                              The most likely option is Grundy.

                              Or, maybe Horse will spring another surprise and put Allir as a marking forward to replace the tired McCartin.

                              Or perhaps Allir is injured himself. Didn’t he come off last week for a bit to get his legs checked

                              Thoughts?
                              He isn't a direct replacement for Grundy or Aliir, so I doubt it will be for either of those (Unless its a case of injury as you suggest).

                              Aliir looked terrible as a forward earlier in the year, I doubt they will go down that route again, especially as he is doing so well down back.
                              "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                              • Blue Sun
                                Senior Player
                                • May 2010
                                • 1440

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Markwebbos
                                AJ confirmed as IN
                                Best news this season, by far. So happy for AJ, no one deserves to play AFL footy more than he does.

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