#AFLFinals 2ndEF Swans vs Giants, SCG, Sat 8 Sep 4:20pm @sydneyswans #AFLSwansGiants

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  • dejavoodoo44
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2015
    • 8490

    Originally posted by barry
    Jarrad Waite.

    And no one has been seriously injured
    By it. Back in the days of metal studs maybe you had a point, but not now
    Pretty sure that a kick in the head can do damage, with or without studs.

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    Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
    Pretty sure that a kick in the head can do damage, with or without studs.
    And if recall correctly, Luke Dahlhaus had five stitches, courtesy of a Greene boot in the head.

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    • barry
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      • Jan 2003
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      • stevoswan
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2014
        • 8543

        Swagger and arrogant thuggery are two very different things.....and Buddy is actually entitled to have 'swagger'. That Greene displays it says a lot about his ego and opinion of himself if you asked me.....and who's to say the umpires will ever pull him up for it after what went down yesterday? He did it four times, endangering opponents on every occasion and once, nearly removing a players head, although I suspect he got away with it because the Sydney Swans were his opponent. When he did it against the Fairypups, he was fined, which set a weak precedent admittedly but now the umpires have inexplicably weakened that precedent to the point of approving it...

        So the only thing that will stop him is for someone to do a real job on him in the same way....and I will be cheering them on.....and waiting with interest to hear his team mates and his coaches hypocritically 'outraged' reactions.

        Really can't see how any fair minded footy fan can defend this practice.....or even make excuses for such a grub.

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        Originally posted by barry


        Great pics Baz.....doesn't make it ok.
        Last edited by stevoswan; 9 September 2018, 06:58 PM.

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        • dejavoodoo44
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          • Apr 2015
          • 8490

          Originally posted by barry


          Picture one may have a small amount of incidental marking contact. Picture two seems like the only contact made, is Oliver's hand on the calf of whoever it is taking the mark.
          I'm not sure how that's supposed to prove that Greene's deliberate kicking is not dangerous, illegal and should be stamped out?

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          • stevoswan
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            • Sep 2014
            • 8543

            Here's some of that hypocrisy I referred to in my last post.....Davis complaining about Buddy's 'tactics'.

            Davis' heated exchange over Franklin tactics - AFL.com.au

            .....but he's ok with Greene's grubby stops out 'protecting of space'.

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            • barry
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              • Jan 2003
              • 8499

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              • troyjones2525
                Swans Fanatic!
                • Mar 2008
                • 2908

                Originally posted by stevoswan
                Toby Greene, your hero, is a dick who doesn't pass our clubs 'no dickhead' ethos. I don't care how 'good' he is or how 'mongrel' he is.....I would hate him playing for our club.
                Ridiculous to say that. I'm sure the same was said about Lockett, Hall and even Buddy before they wore red and white as they were all hated players of opposition supporters! But they are all Swans legends and favorite sons of this club now for the great service and performances they have given us fans.

                If a talent like Toby Greene happened to decide that he wanted to play in red and white next year then I'm sure everyone, including yourself, would be excited and happy to have him. I know I certainly would! And that goes for absolutely any other star in the league that wants to come across too!

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                • dejavoodoo44
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                  • Apr 2015
                  • 8490

                  Originally posted by troyjones2525
                  Ridiculous to say that. I'm sure the same was said about Lockett, Hall and even Buddy before they wore red and white as they were all hated players of opposition supporters! But they are all Swans legends and favorite sons of this club now for the great service and performances they have given us fans.

                  If a talent like Toby Greene happened to decide that he wanted to play in red and white next year then I'm sure everyone, including yourself, would be excited and happy to have him. I know I certainly would! And that goes for absolutely any other star in the league that wants to come across too!

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                  Pretty sure that I wouldn't be excited.

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                  Three shots of incidental contact in high flying marking contests. Once again, totally different to the practice of deliberately kicking an opponent.

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                  Originally posted by stevoswan
                  Here's some of that hypocrisy I referred to in my last post.....Davis complaining about Buddy's 'tactics'.

                  Davis' heated exchange over Franklin tactics - AFL.com.au

                  .....but he's ok with Greene's grubby stops out 'protecting of space'.
                  Yes, and the idea that yesterday's behaviour, was totally different to kicking Dahlhaus in the head last year, is an "ambitious" justification.

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                  • Kafka's Ghost
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 899

                    Originally posted by stevoswan
                    Here's some of that hypocrisy I referred to in my last post.....Davis complaining about Buddy's 'tactics'.

                    Davis' heated exchange over Franklin tactics - AFL.com.au

                    .....but he's ok with Greene's grubby stops out 'protecting of space'.
                    I also thought that was pretty poor form from Davis, especially given the Giants’ other subtle techniques of slinging opponents to the ground, “accidentally” landing on opponents, getting “tangled” up with opponents to slow the play and enable their teammates to flood back. Among others. There were several 50m penalties overlooked, but of course the one that was paid was for the officious 10m rule.

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                    • Mark26
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 1535

                      Next time we line up against GWS, I would love for a Swan's defender to roundhouse TG in order to protect their marking space. The precedent was set last night.

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                      • barry
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                        • Jan 2003
                        • 8499

                        This thread has become embarrassing. Green, Davis didn't make 30 scoring shots to 10 on their own. You are chasing shadows.

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                        • goswannies
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 3048

                          Originally posted by barry


                          barry, those pictures aren’t even remotely comparable.

                          The first one looks like the Tigers player is caught too far under the ball and is reaching backwards. And there is stuff all contact.

                          Are you seriously suggesting that the Carlton player in the second one is jumping backwards with the flight of the ball to make contact with his boot?!

                          Anyone can find an opportunistic picture but those two are rediculous. And even if your two “examples” were likened to Greene’s, two wrongs don’t make a right.

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                          Oh FFS. Have you watched any of those marks?! NONE of them have players going in boots first (leading with the stops).

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                          • goswannies
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 3048

                            Originally posted by barry
                            This thread has become embarrassing. Green, Davis didn't make 30 scoring shots to 10 on their own. You are chasing shadows.
                            Separate issues regarding how good Greene & Davis are as players vs the common complaint of Davis “protecting his area” during a marking contest forcefully with his boot.

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                            • bodgie
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 501

                              That was a hard game to endure. They just intercepted our kicks time and time again. Experienced players too battered to take control as in days gone. Young guys disappeared under the pressure. The best thing about the game was we had time to find one spot where you can still stand up, just where we used to, with a beer in hand near the Doug Walters stand.

                              Now back to the main thread. Imagine if Goodes or Franklin had a marking style like Toby Greene?

                              If players are allowed to clear their space by using a kicking motion things will get interesting.

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                              • neilfws
                                Senior Player
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 1818

                                After 24 hours reflection...a very disappointing end to the year.

                                The most GWS fans I've seen to date. I had the good fortune to be in front of one, in Bay 26, screaming "Let's go Giants!" in a piercing yet-to-break voice about every 3 minutes, the whole game. I admire the enthusiasm but am still deaf in my right ear.

                                I was quite confident going into the game although I don't know why, knowing that Buddy and maybe Parker were in doubt. As it was, Buddy clearly wasn't right, Davis stuck with him the entire night and no-one else stood up.

                                Very few highlights, aside from it was good to see Allir recovered from the horror Hawks game.

                                Cheer for the drought-breaking third goal more like a jeer. Quite contemptuous for an SCG crowd.

                                So that's that. A mixed year, some real highlights, but I feel there are issues that need to be addressed for next season. Not so sure about that fabled Bloods spirit just now.

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