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  • Industrial Fan
    Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
    • Aug 2006
    • 3317

    Bennell is a pretty sound strategy imo. Won’t cost much in terms of salary cap, nothing in draft terms, high upside and would be easily removed from the playing group if he was a bad influence.

    I’m all for it.
    He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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    • Ralph Dawg
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2018
      • 1729

      Originally posted by Industrial Fan
      Bennell is a pretty sound strategy imo. Won’t cost much in terms of salary cap, nothing in draft terms, high upside and would be easily removed from the playing group if he was a bad influence.
      I’m all for it.
      If this comes off, will be huge for us.

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      • Auntie.Gerald
        Veterans List
        • Oct 2009
        • 6474

        Agree
        For the Swans our window most likely starts to become more serious around 2021/22 unless we change tact significantly this trade / draft period ?

        Managing injury rehab for Bennell through parts of or all of 2020 is no big deal for our performance and or results.

        It is low risk low $.... but potentially high reward strategy for recruitment for 2021 and beyond
        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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        • 707
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2009
          • 6204

          Originally posted by Industrial Fan
          Bennell is a pretty sound strategy imo. Won’t cost much in terms of salary cap, nothing in draft terms, high upside and would be easily removed from the playing group if he was a bad influence.

          I’m all for it.
          SMH "After glowing endorsements from several people, the Swans are moving closer to a deal that would see Bennell on Sydney's list in 2020."

          Nothing to lose here except some $ but a potential enormous amount to gain. I know he's been in the footy wilderness for a number of seasons but, if we can get him fit, Bennell is exactly the type of player we need. He knows this is last chance saloon, now has a family settling him off field and will give it everything to get something out of his footy days. Worth a roll of the dice.

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            If bennell was truely reformed, Freo would keep him.

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            • Ralph Dawg
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2018
              • 1729

              Just read GWS will give up Patton for a 3rd rounder to the Hawks. How the hell do they continue to do such good deals? I need a new dryer, maybe should take one of the Hawks management down to the Good Guys to negotiate for me!

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              • MattW
                Veterans List
                • May 2011
                • 4195

                Originally posted by Industrial Fan
                Bennell is a pretty sound strategy imo. Won’t cost much in terms of salary cap, nothing in draft terms, high upside and would be easily removed from the playing group if he was a bad influence.

                I’m all for it.
                Agreed.

                Micky O was his mentor at the AIS Academy. I wonder whether he's involved at all. Bennell a great in the making, says O'Loughlin - AFL.com.au

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                Originally posted by barry
                If bennell was truely reformed, Freo would keep him.
                I don't know, Fremantle seem a bit of a basket case themselves.

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                • KTigers
                  Senior Player
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 2499

                  Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                  Just read GWS will give up Patton for a 3rd rounder to the Hawks. How the hell do they continue to do such good deals? I need a new dryer, maybe should take one of the Hawks management down to the Good Guys to negotiate for me!
                  Patton is probably better off at another club. Both parties likely think that. If you read between the lines in stories about him, it
                  seems his head is not in a good place. Three knee recos will do that I suppose. I think GWS have been very good to him, extending
                  his contract just after he did his knee the second time. And now he has been passed by Himmelberg & Finlayson. He was already a
                  long way behind Cameron. Even when fully fit, he would drift in and out of games. He's an average player really.

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                  • KTigers
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 2499

                    Originally posted by Industrial Fan
                    Bennell is a pretty sound strategy imo. Won’t cost much in terms of salary cap, nothing in draft terms, high upside and would be easily removed from the playing group if he was a bad influence.

                    I’m all for it.
                    Agree. Probably don't have a lot to lose. The club has been quite good over the years at keeping players on the straight and narrow.
                    But ultimately, he'll have to perform well on the field. If he doesn't, they'll cut him.

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                    • bloodspirit
                      Clubman
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 4448

                      Originally posted by KTigers
                      Patton is probably better off at another club. Both parties likely think that. If you read between the lines in stories about him, it
                      seems his head is not in a good place. Three knee recos will do that I suppose. I think GWS have been very good to him, extending
                      his contract just after he did his knee the second time. And now he has been passed by Himmelberg & Finlayson. He was already a
                      long way behind Cameron. Even when fully fit, he would drift in and out of games. He's an average player really.
                      Part of the reason he doesn't cost a high pick is because he comes with a salary more than he's worth after his injury history. Bit the same with Scully, who was an even greater steal.

                      Hawks seem to like gambling on players who are high upside and high risk, including at the draft (Scully, Patton, Dayle Garlett) . Whereas Kinnear Beatson likes investing in players who are undervalued because they are younger than their peers (McCartin, Hewett) or rawer (Melican, McInerney).
                      All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                      • 707
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6204

                        Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                        Just read GWS will give up Patton for a 3rd rounder to the Hawks. How the hell do they continue to do such good deals? I need a new dryer, maybe should take one of the Hawks management down to the Good Guys to negotiate for me!
                        Salary dump, is contracted on big $ and GWS need the cap space. Scully last year was a dodgy deal, went to Hawks supposedly because his ankle was so bad he may not play again then miracles of miracles his ankle comes good!

                        Edit - just saw your post bloodspirit replying the same :-)

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                        • Nico
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 11329

                          I have changed my mind on Bennell. May turn out a dud but will cost us nothing. I would expect a base salary plus performance bonus based on the number of games he plays on a 2 year deal.

                          Pretty much looking at improving our bottom line.
                          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                          • barry
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8499

                            Originally posted by KTigers
                            Patton is probably better off at another club. Both parties likely think that. If you read between the lines in stories about him, it
                            seems his head is not in a good place. Three knee recos will do that I suppose. I think GWS have been very good to him, extending
                            his contract just after he did his knee the second time. And now he has been passed by Himmelberg & Finlayson. He was already a
                            long way behind Cameron. Even when fully fit, he would drift in and out of games. He's an average player really.
                            I think Patton at full health is better than both Finlayson and Himmelberg, and am suprised GWS havent rehabilitated Patton to be ready now, for a crack at finals. Its like they have given up on winning a flag this year.

                            Findlayson's form, and Pattons injuries means it makes sense to entertain offers for Patton, but you'd think you'd get more than a 3rd rounder if you shopped around ?
                            Hawthorn must owe GWS massively.

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                            • waswan
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 2047

                              Not much to lose with Bennell..... Frro only lost Lachie Neale and a chance to get Tim Kelly

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                              • Jimitron5000
                                Warming the Bench
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 455

                                Originally posted by bloodspirit
                                Part of the reason he doesn't cost a high pick is because he comes with a salary more than he's worth after his injury history. Bit the same with Scully, who was an even greater steal.

                                Hawks seem to like gambling on players who are high upside and high risk, including at the draft (Scully, Patton, Dayle Garlett) . Whereas Kinnear Beatson likes investing in players who are undervalued because they are younger than their peers (McCartin, Hewett) or rawer (Melican, McInerney).
                                This sounds like the Swans with Bennell! Mind you, I think it is quite a low risk with a potentially huge benefit. Get him in!!

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