2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[stevoswan]

Wrong draft

The draft later this year? I read was an article saying if we end up on the bottom, we're in line to snag Rowley.

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It'd be cool if we selected Ajang Ajang...

Ajang Ajang and Aliir Aliir......very cool.

[Markwebbos]

The Kyle Dunkley cup was in reference to the Swans v North game next week to see who would get first pick in the mid season draft.

Only the players went and stuffed that up by winning last night.

[707]

Goodbye Matt Rowell & Ajang Ajang :-)

Carlton firming for yet another number 1 pick, oh wait there, that's the Crows!

[troyjones2525]

It feels weird and a little bittersweet having a win because I genuinely want and feel we need one of the top 2 picks in the upcoming November draft!

We desperately need that high quality young midfielder that will be available at those couple of picks!

Haven't had to worry about thinking like this for many years as I was always happy to at least make finals and hope for the best but I think it's pretty clear that we won't be making it this year, even after the win last night against an admittedly equally poor Essendon. It almost seems a little detrimental winning a few of these games here and there and finishing 13th of 14th... Sacrilege I know! [emoji51]

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[Markwebbos]

I really believe we’ll make a play for an experienced player at the end of the year, who is more likely to be the Messiah than an 18 year old.

We also need to re-sign Zak Jones, who is a key piece of our midfield.

Both those things will be assisted by finishing higher up the ladder.

I’m sure we’ll have a top 10 draft pick. Quite probably top 5.

Can you imagine if Carlton finish last and have to hand the first round draft pick to the Crows!

[Cosmic Wizard]

I really believe we’ll make a play for an experienced player at the end of the year, who is more likely to be the Messiah than an 18 year old.

We also need to re-sign Zak Jones, who is a key piece of our midfield.

Both those things will be assisted by finishing higher up the ladder.

I’m sure we’ll have a top 10 draft pick. Quite probably top 5.

Can you imagine if Carlton finish last and have to hand the first round draft pick to the Crows!

Sorry but that wrong; we recruited some useless list cloggers like Mezel and Clark last year and need no more.

In fact since they are on one year contracts, give them the flick and try some youngsters.

We need a rebuild of our midfield, that at least three players, not one marque player who will destroy out salary cap.

Sier is one from Collingwood, contract ends this year, and they have too many midfielder so would be happy to let one go.

Francis from Essendon another; there will be some big changes there when they don't make the finals.

And GWS: they will have salary cap issues again, so Bonnar, Hooper; there will be some A grade talent they can't keep on their books.

Lets go for these young players, who will compliment our young squad; not ageing hacks!

PS if Jones goes to Melbourne, not that fuss, he not elite, but rather average.

If we get back a top five pick for him, totally do it.

The player will be an elite midfielder, with great skills and decisioning making, which is not Zac!

[Blood Fever]

Sorry but that wrong; we recruited some useless list cloggers like Mezel and Clark last year and need no more.

In fact since they are on one year contracts, give them the flick and try some youngsters.

We need a rebuild of our midfield, that at least three players, not one marque player who will destroy out salary cap.

Sier is one from Collingwood, contract ends this year, and they have too many midfielder so would be happy to let one go.

Francis from Essendon another; there will be some big changes there when they don't make the finals.

And GWS: they will have salary cap issues again, so Bonnar, Hooper; there will be some A grade talent they can't keep on their books.

Lets go for these young players, who will compliment our young squad; not ageing hacks!

PS if Jones goes to Melbourne, not that fuss, he not elite, but rather average.

If we get back a top five pick for him, totally do it.

The player will be an elite midfielder, with great skills and decisioning making, which is not Zac!

Thoughtful post but disagree about Jones - not perfect but improving and maturing still. Also, we his need his passion and work rate.

[S.S. Bleeder]

It feels weird and a little bittersweet having a win because I genuinely want and feel we need one of the top 2 picks in the upcoming November draft!

We desperately need that high quality young midfielder that will be available at those couple of picks!

Haven't had to worry about thinking like this for many years as I was always happy to at least make finals and hope for the best but I think it's pretty clear that we won't be making it this year, even after the win last night against an admittedly equally poor Essendon. It almost seems a little detrimental winning a few of these games here and there and finishing 13th of 14th... Sacrilege I know! [emoji51]

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Couldn't agree more. Rowell and Anderson are currently a mile ahead of anyone else in this years draft with Rowell being better than Anderson, albeit being different types of midfielders. Rowell being a pure inside mid and Anderson being the outside mid.

Our list is screaming out for Rowell who would come straight into our team come round one next season. He would immediately improve us. If we need to finish last for one year whilst developing our team in a season when we have no chance of being premiers then we should do it.

[rb4x]

Totally disagree with tanking to get a high draft pick, it is basically cheating. If we managed to draft Rowell we would then have to fight off in two years the Melbourne clubs who would offer him what we can not match, a return home to his mates, very lucrative additional service agreements and brown paper bags of folding stuff.

[Markwebbos]

Sorry but that wrong; we recruited some useless list cloggers like Mezel and Clark last year and need no more.

In fact since they are on one year contracts, give them the flick and try some youngsters.

We need a rebuild of our midfield, that at least three players, not one marque player who will destroy out salary cap.

Sier is one from Collingwood, contract ends this year, and they have too many midfielder so would be happy to let one go.

Francis from Essendon another; there will be some big changes there when they don't make the finals.

And GWS: they will have salary cap issues again, so Bonnar, Hooper; there will be some A grade talent they can't keep on their books.

Lets go for these young players, who will compliment our young squad; not ageing hacks!

PS if Jones goes to Melbourne, not that fuss, he not elite, but rather average.

If we get back a top five pick for him, totally do it.

The player will be an elite midfielder, with great skills and decisioning making, which is not Zac!

Hey Cosmic Wizard, despite your tone, I think we are actually talking about the same thing. My original point was that the Swans need to bolster the side with players with experience as well as draftees. I don't think adding Matt Rowell to Friday's side would suddenly make it a top eight one.

I disagree that we should only be "rebuilding" with young recruits. Our side is too young at the moment and would benefit from more experience.

I'm not convinced all 3 recruits are "list cloggers". Thurlow was a 1st round draft pick, and rated as a "great" kick. Menzel hasn't played a game for the Swans yet. Ironically Clarke who looks most likely to be a dud, fits your age profile as he's only 21 years old.

BTW Francis is a key position player not a midfielder. Played forward against us on the weekend and almost took the screamer. Bonar is contracted until 2020. Hopper is going to a marquee player by the end of this year if he isn't already. I think its going to be more difficult than you think to find up and coming midfielders with great skills and decision making that aren't going to be expensive and hard to prise out of their clubs (which usually costs extra). We definitely need one, two would be better.

We do also have Callum Mills running around in defence. Heeney playing forward who might both improve our midfield given more (any) time there.

I also rate Jones more highly than you do. Think he's only going to get better. He's only 24. I think we should keep him. For whatever reason, the overwhelming majority of explosive midfielders, don't have perfect foot skills. Shiel, Dangerfield and Treloar come to mind.

[Ralph Dawg]

Totally disagree with tanking to get a high draft pick, it is basically cheating. If we managed to draft Rowell we would then have to fight off in two years the Melbourne clubs who would offer him what we can not match, a return home to his mates, very lucrative additional service agreements and brown paper bags of folding stuff.

Agree rb4x. I think Carlton shows that getting high draft picks will not turn a mediocre team into a good one immediately. We desperately need to strengthen inside mid and ruck and I think a player like Sier will still be significantly ahead of Rowell or Anderson at this stage of their respective careers.

[Auntie.Gerald]

Supposedly our list for out of contract players 2019

I’m guessing we will recruit new 5-7 players

So who would u let go besides Tippett ?

Oriordan
Menzel
Cameron
Tucker
Cunningham
Reynolds
Grundy
McClean
Maibaum
Bell
Thurlow
Rose
McVeigh
Amartey
Dawson
Jack
Tippett
Smith
Fox
Clarke
Pink
Jones

[Auntie.Gerald]

List of out of contract 2019
All clubs

AFL Out of Contract Players in 2019

[Auntie.Gerald]

Besides a ruckman my hit list is as per below
Lucky to get two players drafted in un less low value trades is my guess

Who would u trade out if we could trade in ?

Zach sproule for me has so much upside and so to Tom Phillips

Massive fan of ed Langdon and desperately need a player like him in our team.

Sicily
Ed Langdon
Brayden Sier
Tom Phillips
Liam Jones
Zachary Sproule
Sam frost
David Astbury
Newnes
Jonathon Marsh

[Mark26]

Supposedly our list for out of contract players 2019

I’m guessing we will recruit new 5-7 players

So who would u let go besides Tippett ?

Oriordan
Menzel
Cameron
Tucker
Cunningham
Reynolds
Grundy
McClean
Maibaum
Bell
Thurlow
Rose
McVeigh
Amartey
Dawson
Jack
Tippett
Smith
Fox
Clarke
Pink
Jones

It's time for the older brigade to hang up their boots. Start with Jack and Reg. Most likely you could add McVeigh and perhaps Smith too. I think Rose needs to go as well. The coaches aren't willing to play him and he's been on our list for a long time. If he hasn't cracked it by now ... The other player I wouldn't mind see given the chop is Clarke. He can find the pill, but turns it over a lot or puts a teammate under pressure with his poor disposal.