2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[bloodspirit]

Prefer Kizza to impart his knowledge in a coaching capacity, not clogging up our list, taking valuable game time from our youngsters and using up valuable cap space. If anyone stays on, it should be Smith given we have no genuine small lock down defender, as long as he can make a full recovery. Having a year off might actually extend his career.

I'm with you. Kizza definitely retires. Macca almost certainly too given his age and recurrent soft tissue injuries. The time has come to move on without them on field.

Macca is the better bet for a coaching role than Kizza but maybe we can find things for them both to do.

[caj23]

Don't think any of them go around again next year.

Grundy already gone
Jack no longer best 22
Smith could go around again, but may not want to go again at age 31 (just turned) after 12 months out.
McVeigh could stay on form, but the injuries are hitting him pretty hard

Respect them all as champions of our club, but probably best that we move forward with the new generation now.

[Kumarangk]

Don't think any of them go around again next year.

Grundy already gone
Jack no longer best 22
Smith could go around again, but may not want to go again at age 31 (just turned) after 12 months out.
McVeigh could stay on form, but the injuries are hitting him pretty hard

Respect them all as champions of our club, but probably best that we move forward with the new generation now.

In the scheme of things are these players ( and you can include Hannabury to the list ) paying the price of our long reign at the top ? I mean their bodies are obviously letting them down and they are all on the downward slide form wise. Their ages ( apart from McVeigh ) don't appear to be a problem compared to other players in the league so perhaps their heart & soul efforts in the past have caught up with them. Hope Kennedy has a year or two left.

[caj23]

In the scheme of things are these players ( and you can include Hannabury to the list ) paying the price of our long reign at the top ? I mean their bodies are obviously letting them down and they are all on the downward slide form wise. Their ages ( apart from McVeigh ) don't appear to be a problem compared to other players in the league so perhaps their heart & soul efforts in the past have caught up with them. Hope Kennedy has a year or two left.

Think our grinding game style, extra games every year (finals!) and our tendency to play senior players through injury has definitely contributed, however I don't think our retirements/older players are significantly worse than other teams.

I'm really interested to see how Hanners fares now that he's had the chance to give his body a break, I'm hoping he can return back to his pre 2016 form (although not against us!). If he can, then its probably a black mark against our medical team.

[rb4x]

Our injury list is equal worst with Tigers, Saints and Suns all on 14. Plus of course Tippett and Grundy.

[Nico]

Don't think any of them go around again next year.

Grundy already gone
Jack no longer best 22
Smith could go around again, but may not want to go again at age 31 (just turned) after 12 months out.
McVeigh could stay on form, but the injuries are hitting him pretty hard

Respect them all as champions of our club, but probably best that we move forward with the new generation now.

With all due respect to Jack. I think he is on the sidelines due to the concussion he got in his last game. He really hasn't had a chance to get back to form. As far as Macca goes he is now getting repeated soft tissue injuries that will probably see him retire at years end. I think he might be the heir apparent to Longmire.

[MattW]

With all due respect to Jack. I think he is on the sidelines due to the concussion he got in his last game. He really hasn't had a chance to get back to form. As far as Macca goes he is now getting repeated soft tissue injuries that will probably see him retire at years end. I think he might be the heir apparent to Longmire.

Agree re McVeigh.

[bandwagon]

.... As far as Macca goes he is now getting repeated soft tissue injuries that will probably see him retire at years end. I think he might be the heir apparent to Longmire.

He appears to have the tools to be a coach - but I'd prefer him to get substantial experience as an assistant (at other clubs) before he is considered for the senior coach at the Swans.
And as for his playing career - I think you are spot on.

[Blood Fever]

He appears to have the tools to be a coach - but I'd prefer him to get substantial experience as an assistant (at other clubs) before he is considered for the senior coach at the Swans.
And as for his playing career - I think you are spot on.

Kirk front of queue. Roos-Longmire-Kirk

[Mark26]

Think our grinding game style, extra games every year (finals!) and our tendency to play senior players through injury has definitely contributed, however I don't think our retirements/older players are significantly worse than other teams.

I'm really interested to see how Hanners fares now that he's had the chance to give his body a break, I'm hoping he can return back to his pre 2016 form (although not against us!). If he can, then its probably a black mark against our medical team.

This seems to be spot on, at least for Mumford. A mate of mine was chatting to him at a GWS Academy session (my mate's son falls into their zone) and asked him about leaving the Swans. He said that he felt like his body was shot when he left as he had to play consistently through injuries. GWS seemed to have worked miracles with him. Pity they couldn't wave that magic wand with Scully though.

[707]

With all due respect to Jack. I think he is on the sidelines due to the concussion he got in his last game. He really hasn't had a chance to get back to form. As far as Macca goes he is now getting repeated soft tissue injuries that will probably see him retire at years end. I think he might be the heir apparent to Longmire.

Thanks for "pointing" that out :-)

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This seems to be spot on, at least for Mumford. A mate of mine was chatting to him at a GWS Academy session (my mate's son falls into their zone) and asked him about leaving the Swans. He said that he felt like his body was shot when he left as he had to play consistently through injuries. GWS seemed to have worked miracles with him. Pity they couldn't wave that magic wand with Scully though.

Reckon giving him away to the Hawks was just a ploy to get cap space, don't think Hawks medico's did any more than another club's would have, they aren't miracle workers. A lot of smell about that trade.

[caj23]

With all due respect to Jack. I think he is on the sidelines due to the concussion he got in his last game. He really hasn't had a chance to get back to form. As far as Macca goes he is now getting repeated soft tissue injuries that will probably see him retire at years end. I think he might be the heir apparent to Longmire.

I don't think he's been in form since 2016, but that's my own opinion Nico, unfortunately I don't think that view is shared by Horse and co

[bloodspirit]

I don't think there is an heir at this stage, and they're certainly not apparent. I think we are currently happy with Horse for the indefinite future (and vice versa). We will think about succession planning when the need arises based on circumstances as they are at that time.

[Ludwig]

Dylan Clarke, the younger brother of Ryan Clarke, has been nominated for the Rising Star this week for his good work as a tagger. Interesting that the 2 brothers have both settled in as taggers now, and both considered to have poor disposal skills.

To make it as a tagger and just a tagger, you have to be pretty good at the job. I wonder if Clarke can hold his spot in the side when the young talent, like Stoddart, Ling, Rowbottom and McInerney, start demanding senior time by dint of NEAFL performances.

[chalbilto]

Dylan Clarke, the younger brother of Ryan Clarke, has been nominated for the Rising Star this week for his good work as a tagger. Interesting that the 2 brothers have both settled in as taggers now, and both considered to have poor disposal skills.

To make it as a tagger and just a tagger, you have to be pretty good at the job. I wonder if Clarke can hold his spot in the side when the young talent, like Stoddart, Ling, Rowbottom and McInerney, start demanding senior time by dint of NEAFL performances.

Hope that eventuates and would love to see that.