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I wouldn't. Gawn will be 28 next year which is approaching ruckman retirement years and we'd be giving up a 26YO who is our best player and a 24YO who's playing style we desperately need. We don't need the best ruckman in the league, just a decent one.Comment
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The Age reports that Daisy Thomas' retirement is likely to be in part due to potential salary squeeze next season. They reckon Carlton are after Coniglio, Brandon Ellis and - Tom Papley.
Hope it ain't so and if it is, he won't go.
Daisy to retire from Carlton, and most likely football
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I think we need an inside midfielder more urgently than any other position in the coming years. With that in mind, I would have a good go at Charlie Constable from Geelong who can’t break into their star-studded midfield despite playing well earlier in the year as well as consistently positing good numbers in the VFLComment
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He's a 20 year old, 191cm inside mid with "good hands" and he's on the trade table allegedly. Sen says (re a possible trade for Jack Steven):I think we need an inside midfielder more urgently than any other position in the coming years. With that in mind, I would have a good go at Charlie Constable from Geelong who can’t break into their star-studded midfield despite playing well earlier in the year as well as consistently positing good numbers in the VFL
"If a trade is forthcoming, Geelong youngster Constable could seek a move in the opposite direction amid reported frustration with a lack of opportunities at senior level."
Oh and he had 41 disposals, 2 goals on the weekend.Comment
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Great suggestion. Although if we rate him, why didn't we draft him? I recall him being a significant draft slider.I think we need an inside midfielder more urgently than any other position in the coming years. With that in mind, I would have a good go at Charlie Constable from Geelong who can’t break into their star-studded midfield despite playing well earlier in the year as well as consistently positing good numbers in the VFL
Also agree again with SS re Gawn trade.All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)
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Absolutely no chance. They will get pick 1 & 2 and use them on Rowell and Anderson, 2 great mates.GC Suns looking for some experience. Assuming the AFL comes to the party, GC likely to hold picks 1 and 2. What are everyone's thoughts on:
a) likelihood of them giving up 2 for Lloyd, keeping in mind they have expressed interest in Jake last year
b) would he be worth trading for pick 2?
I wouldn't contemplate anything less from them and don't want any of their players that they would put up for trade (no way they would give up Rankine, Lukosius, King).
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Dad was a Maggie barracked and saw Polly v them. A couple of weeks later, Geelong played Carlton atPrinces park. He made me go with him to see Poll v Nicholls. Said you’ll never see something like this again. And I never have. He missed a Maggie game and I missed a Roy’s game. Worth it. Awesome.Comment
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Ludwig, Lloyd is fantastic for a Supercoach perspective as his efficiency is high and he racks up plenty of uncontested kicks. But the reality is that it's pretty obvious most opposition coaches don't rate Lloyd as a damaging player as they don't even bother to put anyone next to him to try and slow him down.I think Lloyd is worth a 5-10 first rounder, at least. Metres gained leader in the AFL, also #1 in kicks and #3 in disposals. Statistically, he's just about the best player in the league. He's incredibly consistent and rarely injured. Best and fairest winner last year. He's likely entering the peak years of his career at 25 yo. It's hard to ask for more. Some of the criticism of Lloyd on RWO is farcical.
Lloyd almost always takes the slow and easy option, hence why his efficiency his so high! He looks for a short kick to a player on his own mostly sideways.
I would much rather a player who has a bit lower efficiency percentage due to trying to take the game on with quick and attacking play, trying to kick in board to a player that can play on... but hey, just my opinion.
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2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel
Statistically it is high . More often than not he hits targets . The one or two howlers a game just seem to be so horrendous they stick in the mind .
Efficiency doesn’t necessarily equate to effectiveness though . His kicks to a man hard on the boundary in the back pocket are a good example .
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