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  • Markwebbos
    Veterans List
    • Jul 2016
    • 7186

    Another Tim Kelly would be good

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    • Mel_C
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 4470

      I read in the Age that we enquired whether there is father/son priority in the mid season draft and the AFL said no. So I assume we are looking at Dunkley.

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16740

        Originally posted by Mel_C
        I read in the Age that we enquired whether there is father/son priority in the mid season draft and the AFL said no. So I assume we are looking at Dunkley.
        If we're sitting bottom of the ladder it doesn't much matter if we have priority access to him or not (assuming the club is considering him).

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        • KSAS
          Senior Player
          • Mar 2018
          • 1770

          Q1: Does Kyle Dunkley has the option to bypass the mid year draft & only nominate for the National Draft (again) where we have another chance to secure him as a F/S?

          Q2: By not allowing F/S to nominate their respective club in the mid year draft, won't this tempt clubs out of finals contention (like us) to tank (temporarily)?

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          • Markwebbos
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            Originally posted by KSAS
            Q1: Does Kyle Dunkley has the option to bypass the mid year draft & only nominate for the National Draft (again) where we have another chance to secure him as a F/S?

            Q2: By not allowing F/S to nominate their respective club in the mid year draft, won't this tempt clubs out of finals contention (like us) to tank (temporarily)?
            Q3: Why would the Swans go after Kyle Dunkley in the first place?

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            • 707
              Veterans List
              • Aug 2009
              • 6204

              Players had to nominate themselves for the draft so Dunkley wants the chance to get picked mid season.

              Draft order is reverse ladder position after R10 and think the draft is on Monday 27th May.

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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16740

                Originally posted by 707
                Players had to nominate themselves for the draft so Dunkley wants the chance to get picked mid season.

                Draft order is reverse ladder position after R10 and think the draft is on Monday 27th May.
                The club had him up for a week or so to participate in pre-season training I believe, but then elected not to take him. Even if he has a preference for playing for the club, he would be daft to pass up the opportunity to be drafted now in a hope that the Swans might take him at the next draft (under the FS rules, which I think extend to U19s). Anything can happen between now and then, including the Swans not then electing to draft him.

                I don't think he's exactly what we need to spark some life into our list right now, but he has apparently had a pretty good start to the season. And I doubt that anyone available in this mid-season draft is likely to make much of a difference (unless there really is another Tim Kelly lurking out there somewhere).

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                • Melbourne_Blood
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2010
                  • 3312

                  Originally posted by liz
                  The club had him up for a week or so to participate in pre-season training I believe, but then elected not to take him. Even if he has a preference for playing for the club, he would be daft to pass up the opportunity to be drafted now in a hope that the Swans might take him at the next draft (under the FS rules, which I think extend to U19s). Anything can happen between now and then, including the Swans not then electing to draft him.

                  I don't think he's exactly what we need to spark some life into our list right now, but he has apparently had a pretty good start to the season. And I doubt that anyone available in this mid-season draft is likely to make much of a difference (unless there really is another Tim Kelly lurking out there somewhere).
                  I was having a little look at a list some of the top mid season draft prospects , and while stats as we know don’t tell the whole story , there wasn’t anything awe inspiring in that list . I think anyone would be doing extremely well if they were to find some gold in this draft.


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                  • rb4x
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 968

                    Kyle Dunkley and Adam Tipungwati are the two undertaking medicals who each played one NEAFL game for the Swans last year. With Tippett retired, Naismith permanently injured and Cameron out of favour our greatest need might be for a monster tap ruckman. I am not sure how Jack Blair is going in the SANFL and don't know about his general skills but he did have a great day out in the NEAFL last year. Otherwise the offerings in the draft are a bit meh. A number of ex Swans there but I don't see us taking any of them.

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                    • 707
                      Veterans List
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6204

                      Unlikely to be any player out there that will make a difference as none of them have done an AFL preseason this year. From reports no one is smoking it in other leagues either. Clubs are seeing this as snaring for free an overlooked player who has advanced further and quicker than expected when they were overlooked during the pre season pick them up for free period.

                      So a Kyle Dunkley could fit that category.

                      Looking likely we'll have a very early pick if not the first pick. More important to get the ND right and have pick 1 :-)

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                      • AnnieH
                        RWOs Black Sheep
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 11332

                        I think they should find a spot in the coaching box for Kells.

                        Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                        Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                        • sprite
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 813

                          Originally posted by AnnieH
                          I think they should find a spot in the coaching box for Kells.

                          https://www.smh.com.au/sport/afl/syd...09-p51lu5.html
                          Centre line / on baller's coach, definitely better than Captain Kumbiyah atm
                          sprite

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                          • AnnieH
                            RWOs Black Sheep
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 11332

                            Originally posted by sprite
                            Centre line / on baller's coach, definitely better than Captain Kumbiyah atm
                            Captain Kymbyah!!!!
                            Come and clean up the water mess I just made of my computer.
                            Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                            Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                            • bloodspirit
                              Clubman
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 4448

                              Mid-Season Rookie Draft: Who's having medicals and at what club - AFL.com.au

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                              It seems the draft is 22 May, which means it will have to be based on ladder after Round 9 at the latest.
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                              • bloodspirit
                                Clubman
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 4448

                                I'm not saying there will be a Tim Kelly out there but I think at least one or two of the players drafted are likely to go on and have successful AFL careers. We have seen many times before how players drafted after having been overlooked have gone on to have success, whether Cat B rookies or the players Essendon drafted after their mass suspensions or players like Kelly, Brodie Mihocek and, closer to home, Tom Papley, Dane Rampe etc etc.

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                                They reckon we're interested in Jarvis Pina: Jarvis PINA | WAFL. I would have thought we already have a bit of depth in this department with Rose, Wicks, Foot all vying for selection behind the best 22 already.
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