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  • dejavoodoo44
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2015
    • 8654

    Originally posted by Ludwig
    Dylan Clarke, the younger brother of Ryan Clarke, has been nominated for the Rising Star this week for his good work as a tagger. Interesting that the 2 brothers have both settled in as taggers now, and both considered to have poor disposal skills.

    To make it as a tagger and just a tagger, you have to be pretty good at the job. I wonder if Clarke can hold his spot in the side when the young talent, like Stoddart, Ling, Rowbottom and McInerney, start demanding senior time by dint of NEAFL performances.
    I've been liking Clarke lately. His tagging has been effective in shutting down threats and possibly even more beneficially, releasing Hewett into a more attacking role. And to certain extent, being a tagger can improve a player’s game. That is, spending most of the time guarding a gun midfielder, means that the tagger gets to closely observe what the highly skilled player is doing; in regards to positioning, evasion tactics and option taking. So if they can add some of that to their own game, then they become a better player. I think that Kirk, Crouch and Jack, all improved their skills, after spending time as a tagger.

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    • Legs Akimbo
      Grand Poobah
      • Apr 2005
      • 2809

      Originally posted by chalbilto
      Hope that eventuates and would love to see that.
      A guy that runs 16.9kms and can concentrate for 4 quarters has all the assets for a successful career as a tagger.
      He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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      • 707
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2009
        • 6204

        You need a good tagger against almost all sides and Clarke has been doing it well in recent weeks. Whether he can hold off more talented players who could be introduced to seniors as taggers remains to be seen but, for mine, if he keeps doing what he's been doing he stays.

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        • jono2707
          Goes up to 11
          • Oct 2007
          • 3326

          Clarke has also freed up George to do his inside thing. So maybe we are a bit more ok with our inside grunt now? So maybe we don't need to worry as much about getting Sier, and focus on a bigger fish perhaps?

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          • Ralph Dawg
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2018
            • 1729

            Originally posted by jono2707
            Clarke has also freed up George to do his inside thing. So maybe we are a bit more ok with our inside grunt now? So maybe we don't need to worry as much about getting Sier, and focus on a bigger fish perhaps?
            If George keeps up his form and beyond, very soon he will be a big fish, as will Jordan, Paps and Aliir. Might be best not to shell out ridiculous money +/-long term contracts greater than 3 years so we can keep these guys.

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            Although I would reconsider that for someone like P Cripps!

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            • stevoswan
              Veterans List
              • Sep 2014
              • 8560

              Carlton supposedly going for a gun small forward in the off season with Papley mentioned as a possible target.

              I say he's not going anywhere....contracted until the end of next season and a Blood through and through.....it's in his genes.

              Blues on the hunt for small forward to complement tall timber - AFL.com.au
              Last edited by stevoswan; 19 June 2019, 10:31 PM.

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              • cruiser
                What the frack!
                • Jul 2004
                • 6114

                I read the article on the AFL site that mentioned Papley as a small forward Carlton might be interested in. Absolutely no substance to this baseless speculation. Papley isn’t going anywhere. He’ll stay a Swan and captain the team to a Premiership!
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                • barry
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 8499

                  Part of the Cripps trade I would say.

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    There’s been quite a few of those Papley rumour articles this year. I’m assuming his manager is planting them or lazy journalists are at work. A bit like the endless Stephen Coniglio speculation stories when it looks like he’s absolutely going to stay at the Giants and everyone knows that.

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                    • Ralph Dawg
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 1729

                      Originally posted by barry
                      Part of the Cripps trade I would say.
                      Hypothetically Barry, would you take Cripps for Papley + second rounder?

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                      • 707
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6204

                        Originally posted by Markwebbos
                        There’s been quite a few of those Papley rumour articles this year. I’m assuming his manager is planting them or lazy journalists are at work. A bit like the endless Stephen Coniglio speculation stories when it looks like he’s absolutely going to stay at the Giants and everyone knows that.
                        An interesting exercise would be from the start of a season to note every player moving/targeted article and see how many of them actually happen. Quite a low % I'd reckon. Almost every player drafted out of his home state is claimed to be looking to move home.

                        It's crap journalism to fill the endless voids in the news cycle, like the trade Buddy stuff of a few weeks ago, came out of no where, every commentator was into it, went back from whence it came, up some journo's bottom!

                        If you did a list of players least likely to leave the Swans, Papley's name would be very close to the top rather than the bottom.

                        Move along now, nothing to see here

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                        • mattybloods
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 482

                          If Carlton are after a small forward then Ronke seems a natural fit and someone we'd be willing to trade

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                          • barry
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8499

                            Originally posted by mattybloods
                            If Carlton are after a small forward then Ronke seems a natural fit and someone we'd be willing to trade

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                            Except ronke has zero trade value. Cant get a game in the 4tg worst team.

                            Above, yes I'd take Cripps for papa plus 2nd rounder

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                            • dimelb
                              pr. dim-melb; m not f
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 6889

                              Originally posted by barry
                              Except ronke has zero trade value. Cant get a game in the 4tg worst team. ...
                              We tend to forget that day, last season, when (to quote Hawthorn's banner on the next meeting) "things went Ronke" for them. I don't know whether he is suffering from second year blues or whatever, but I bet (if that's permissible) they would take him in a breath.
                              And I further bet that eventually we would be lining up here to ask who the hell let him go.
                              He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                              • Ralph Dawg
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 1729

                                Originally posted by dimelb
                                We tend to forget that day, last season, when (to quote Hawthorn's banner on the next meeting) "things went Ronke" for them. I don't know whether he is suffering from second year blues or whatever, but I bet (if that's permissible) they would take him in a breath.
                                And I further bet that eventually we would be lining up here to ask who the hell let him go.
                                Hard to say but the evidence so far would say he lacks disposal skills and overall game sense. But I agree Carlton would potentially take him and give us something decent in return so if a reasonable deal was put in the table, we should take it.

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                                Originally posted by barry
                                Except ronke has zero trade value. Cant get a game in the 4tg worst team.

                                Above, yes I'd take Cripps for papa plus 2nd rounder
                                Imagine the hysteria that would generate down in Melbourne!

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