2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[Auntie.Gerald]

Or can we swap Jones for Liam Stocker at Carlton ?

Plus a late pick ?

[Ralph Dawg]

Dawson, rowbottom and Blakey for me are sky rocketing in $ for the future and we want to lock them in long term we may need to re arrange their existing contracts soon

For me we still need a ruckman 2020. We can’t rely on Naismiths knee

We can’t have our midfield rotation and our backline exposed another season via no advantage in the clearances. The game is hard enough as it is.

If we are needing to stagger the sal cap 20/21 yet have a continuity of emerging talent moving into snrs next year and year after etc I would make only one trade out and that is Zac Jones.

This would ensure we can keep Paps who is more important for us, get a ruckman in but it also would mean we can draft a pick 4, pick 10 approx and a pick 24 now and they are on minimal money next couple of seasons yet balance out our future injection of talent is year or two from now

Trade OUT: Jones

Trade IN: ruckman ?

Retired :
Macca
Grundy
Smith
Jack

Delist: 4/5 other players on the lower lists

I agree with this to a point. Ruckman are funny beasts in that there are usuallt good ones languishing in the lower leagues waiting for an opportunity, especially now that most clubs are only playing one true ruck (or in our case none!).
Darren Jolly, Shane Mumford and our own Big Cal are examples of fringe ruckmen who we have turned into AFL regulars. I remember Mummy being lampooned for being too fat and lacking finesse to make it. He has subsequently had an outstanding career given half a chance.
I would be taking a close look at guys like Zac and Archie Smith, Preuss, Soldo, Sean Darcy. The list is not exhaustive - I'm sure there are others, even guys who are currently not regular ruckmen (?Eagles).
If we can snag the next Mummy without giving up too much, then that would be a run for us.
Having said that, Jones for Preuss and a few picks anyone, especially if Jones wants out?

[Ralph Dawg]

run = win

[Auntie.Gerald]

Bradley hill a possibility also if we moved out Jones ?

[KSAS]

I heard Johnny Ralph report the other week that Zak Jones loves Sydney and doesn't think he wants out. I remember Tom Mitchell saying similar before he took the Hawthorn offer. I recall Zak leaving it late in the season before he re-signed previously. I really do hope Zak stays along with Tom, because we can't afford to lose players coming into their prime who we've taken time to develop only to start again in replacing them via the draft.

I also heard reported last night on Fox Footy that Ed Langdon definitely wants out from Freo and speculation Brad Crouch might also be on the move even though he has a year remaining on his contract. Hope they're both on our radar even though going to a Vic club seems the preferred choice these days (Lachie Neale being the exception).

[Jeynez]

I heard Johnny Ralph report the other week that Zak Jones loves Sydney and doesn't think he wants out. I remember Tom Mitchell saying similar before he took the Hawthorn offer. I recall Zak leaving it late in the season before he re-signed previously. I really do hope Zak stays along with Tom, because we can't afford to lose players coming into their prime who we've taken time to develop only to start again in replacing them via the draft.

The difference this time is that we can definitely afford keeping Zak Jones, whereas we couldn't match what Hawthorn were offering Mitchell.

[Auntie.Gerald]

Ed Langdon would be the type of player we need but Bradley Hill would be next level

[S.S. Bleeder]

Play the ROK card and then remind him we drafted him when no one else did

I agree. I'm sick of being bent over in trades. Losing a small forward of his quality is really going to hurt and leaves a massive whole in our forward line. On top of that it is another experienced player that we would be losing. We've got enough youth. He's worth more than pick 9 to us.

[KSAS]

St Kilda is the front runner for Hill reportedly offering him a 900k yearly contract. I think that is overs and hope we don't offering similar money for anyone (Buddy was the exception) because it will bite us in the end in trying to retain our emerging stars. Tippet deal effectively cost us retaining Mitchell.

[S.S. Bleeder]

Not quite right. At current standings, they traded pick 3 for Stocker and pick 9. Pick 9 is more than a set of steak knives.

That trade has worked out well for Carlton. Both teams would have been expecting Adelaide to be close to the top four. People keep bagging Stocker but it's way to soon to judge and Carlton still think he'll be a gun.

[Auntie.Gerald]

Swans team 2020 so far ?

FB: Oriordan, Rampe, Lloyd
HB: Mills, AA, Dawson
C: Florent, Kennedy, Jones?
R: Naismith, Parker, Heeney
HF: Hayward, Reid, Blakey
FF: Rowbottom, Franklin, Papley

INT:
19. McCartin
20. Cunningham
21. Hewett
22. Bell
23. Clarke?
24. Sinclair
25. McInerney
26. Ling
27. Stoddart
28. Melican
29. Foot
30. Amartey
31. Pink
32. Reynolds
33. Ronke
34.
35.
36.
37.
38.


39. Wicks?
38. Tucker?
39. Knoll?
40. McLean?
41.
42.
43.

Gone
1. Grundy
2. Macca
3. Jack
4. Smith
5. Rose?
6. Fox?
7. Maibaum?
8. Thurlow?
9. Menzel?
10. Hirst?
11. Cameron?

Draft Picks 4,32, 39,43,58,59,76 ?

[longmile]

Swans team 2020 so far ?

Looks pretty spot on IMO. But I'd play Sinclair in place of McCartin. Good forward and back up ruck. The defence looks a little small, so that'd allow Reid to move into the back line (I think he's a good defender).

I'd have Clarke in the best 22 over Bell at this stage and Hayward is gonna have to rediscover his old form.

Surely they'll keep Menzel for another year, handy player, who would play the same role as Wayward.

[Mark26]

I agree. I'm sick of being bent over in trades. Losing a small forward of his quality is really going to hurt and leaves a massive whole in our forward line. On top of that it is another experienced player that we would be losing. We've got enough youth. He's worth more than pick 9 to us.

I agree. As previously stated, the only thing I'd accept for Papley is a packet of Cripps from the Blues.

[Captain]

What's interesting from this thread is that we all seem to be much more concerned about losing Papley than Jones.

Reckon would have been the opposite a year or two ago. Over that time, Jones has stalled and Papley has become one of the best small forwards in the comp.

[Markwebbos]

According to SEN Breakfast’s Sam Edmund, Mason Wood is reportedly set to be put up for trade, with Sydney one of the teams interested.

Pair of key position Roos linked to moves out the door