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  • Auntie.Gerald
    Veterans List
    • Oct 2009
    • 6474

    Swans team 2020:

    FB: Oriordan, Rampe, Lloyd
    HB: Mills, AA, Dawson
    C: Florent, Kennedy, Jones?
    R: Naismith, Parker, Hewett
    HF: Hayward, Reid, Blakey
    FF: Heeney, Franklin, Papley

    INT:
    19. McCartin
    20. Cunningham
    21. Rowbottom
    22. Bell
    23. Clarke?
    24. Sinclair
    25. McInerney
    26. Ling
    27. Stoddart
    28. Melican
    29. Foot
    30. Amartey
    31. Pink
    32. Reynolds
    33. Ronke
    34.
    35.
    36.
    37.
    38.

    39. Wicks
    38. Tucker
    39. Knoll
    40. McLean
    41. Oconnor
    42.
    43.
    44.

    Gone
    1. Grundy
    2. Macca
    3. Jack
    4. Smith
    5. Rose
    6. Hirst
    7. cameron

    8. Thurlow?
    9. Menzel?
    10. fox?
    11. Maibaum
    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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    • AB Swannie
      Senior Player
      • Mar 2017
      • 1579

      If Zak Jones was playing for another club, he’d be the type we’d be trying to trade for. Hard at it, ultra competitive, 25 next year, takes the game on, speed.... He is not going to win a brownlow but we need him more than a pick 20 in the next draft. I only hope that this is the same situation as Jake Lloyd last year and we announce a his re-signing now the season is over.

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      • 707
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2009
        • 6204

        Originally posted by AB Swannie
        If Zak Jones was playing for another club, he’d be the type we’d be trying to trade for. Hard at it, ultra competitive, 25 next year, takes the game on, speed.... He is not going to win a brownlow but we need him more than a pick 20 in the next draft. I only hope that this is the same situation as Jake Lloyd last year and we announce a his re-signing now the season is over.
        Yesterday's post match would have him thinking "why would I want to leave this"?

        I suspect his manager has tested the Vic waters but he'll re-sign.

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        • Blood Fever
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 4040

          Originally posted by AB Swannie
          If Zak Jones was playing for another club, he’d be the type we’d be trying to trade for. Hard at it, ultra competitive, 25 next year, takes the game on, speed.... He is not going to win a brownlow but we need him more than a pick 20 in the next draft. I only hope that this is the same situation as Jake Lloyd last year and we announce a his re-signing now the season is over.
          Spot on

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          • Ralph Dawg
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2018
            • 1729

            I see Powell - Peppers name being thrown about for potential trade. He could be a good addition at the right price. Port will most probably want Hewett or Dawson, both being SA boys (they can get stuffed) but how about we give them Rose instead (yes, I'm dreaming, I know).

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            • AB Swannie
              Senior Player
              • Mar 2017
              • 1579

              I’d be happy with Powell-Pepper. He’s a bull who is ultra competitive. His disposal is average at best but he’d be best 22 and do a lot of the grunt work instead of JPK and Parker. An early 3rd round pick would do it I would think.

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              • MattW
                Veterans List
                • May 2011
                • 4195

                Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                I see Powell - Peppers name being thrown about for potential trade. He could be a good addition at the right price. Port will most probably want Hewett or Dawson, both being SA boys (they can get stuffed) but how about we give them Rose instead (yes, I'm dreaming, I know).
                Not me; poor off field behaviour, poor disposal on it.

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                • Ralph Dawg
                  Senior Player
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 1729

                  Originally posted by MattW
                  Not me; poor off field behaviour, poor disposal on it.
                  Swans always love a bad boy!
                  Re disposal, don't know his game well enough but do remember him slotting an awesome goal on a tight angle, about 45 out at the SCG a few years ago.

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                  • stevoswan
                    Veterans List
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 8545

                    Interested in everyone's thoughts on Menzel's chances of staying on after his rather quiet performance yesterday....which was hardly an endorsement for his future worth to the team.

                    Personally, I'd like him to be given another year....he's come off a debilitating injury from last season and an interrupted pre season and at times has shown smarts our forward line could use.

                    With a full pre season under his belt, I think those smarts would be on show a lot more consistently and he could compliment our forward mix nicely.....

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                    • 111431
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 697

                      Originally posted by stevoswan
                      Interested in everyone's thoughts on Menzel's chances of staying on after his rather quiet performance yesterday....which was hardly an endorsement for his future worth to the team.

                      Personally, I'd like him to be given another year....he's come off a debilitating injury from last season and an interrupted pre season and at times has shown smarts our forward line could use.

                      With a full pre season under his belt, I think those smarts would be on show a lot more consistently and he could compliment our forward mix nicely.....
                      Agree- surely he is playing for minimum contract

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                      • dejavoodoo44
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 8496

                        Originally posted by stevoswan
                        Interested in everyone's thoughts on Menzel's chances of staying on after his rather quiet performance yesterday....which was hardly an endorsement for his future worth to the team.

                        Personally, I'd like him to be given another year....he's come off a debilitating injury from last season and an interrupted pre season and at times has shown smarts our forward line could use.

                        With a full pre season under his belt, I think those smarts would be on show a lot more consistently and he could compliment our forward mix nicely.....
                        I would certainly keep Menzel. Seems to have a high football IQ and has a large skill set. A number of times in the NEAFL, he left me wondering, how did he take that mark or how did he kick that goal? The only quibble is that he and Hayward are very similar players, so can we regularly play them both? But still, even if he spent most of next year in the NEAFL, he seems to be popular with our youngsters, a number of whom in interviews, have said how good he is at teaching them skills and going over tapes with them. So, that would almost be enough for him to earn his keep.

                        - - - Updated - - -

                        Whoops, forgot to mention that with our age profile, we probably shouldn't be getting rid of too many mature players.

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                        • Legs Akimbo
                          Grand Poobah
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 2809

                          Originally posted by stevoswan
                          Interested in everyone's thoughts on Menzel's chances of staying on after his rather quiet performance yesterday....which was hardly an endorsement for his future worth to the team.

                          Personally, I'd like him to be given another year....he's come off a debilitating injury from last season and an interrupted pre season and at times has shown smarts our forward line could use.

                          With a full pre season under his belt, I think those smarts would be on show a lot more consistently and he could compliment our forward mix nicely.....
                          My major knock on him is he can be very hungry. Had a few pings on Sat that could have been passed to a teammate in a better position.
                          He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                          • Aprilbr
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 1803

                            Menzel is a real 50/50 call.

                            Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

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                            • MattW
                              Veterans List
                              • May 2011
                              • 4195

                              Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
                              My major knock on him is he can be very hungry. Had a few pings on Sat that could have been passed to a teammate in a better position.
                              Yep, agreed.

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                              • Auntie.Gerald
                                Veterans List
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 6474

                                No Menzel for me 2020

                                Targets up front :

                                Buddy
                                Heeney
                                McCartin
                                Reid
                                Blakey
                                McLean
                                Hayward
                                Amartey

                                If we need another let’s get another KPP

                                A player that can give more opportunity for 2020 and beyond
                                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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