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  • stevoswan
    Veterans List
    • Sep 2014
    • 8543

    Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
    A bit before my time, but obviously, you don't get to be the longtime Swans games record holder, if you're not a quality player.
    He was a champion defender and one of my childhood heroes, up there with Skilts. I was devastated when he went to North.....and helped them win a premiership, which I witnessed.

    I was happy for him.....he was never going to win one with the Swans back then.

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    • troyjones2525
      Swans Fanatic!
      • Mar 2008
      • 2908

      For those who love watching draft prospect footage leading up to and even after the draft (like me!), the draft prospect video's are now up on the AFL website!

      Enjoy playing recruitment manager and dreaming of which next champion we should be selecting on draft night! Lol. Looking forward to hearing people's opinions after getting a look at some of these highlights!

      AFL Draft Prospects - AFL.com.au

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        I'm warming to the idea of taking Luke Jackson if he's available at pick 5.

        Another idea worth considering is trading down, sending picks 5 and 44 for either:
        • Picks 14 and 17 - Geelong
        • Picks 12 and 18 -Port Adelaide


        I'm thinking that 2 players in the teens is worth more than who might be available at pick 5, Jackson being the exception as he brings something different and hard to find.

        It will be interesting if Jackson is still available at pick 5, because I think both GWS and Geelong would be very interested in securing that pick. So If we're not interested in Jackson, trading down could be beneficial.

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        • SeanM
          Warming the Bench
          • Jul 2016
          • 304

          I don't think there will be a pure inside midfielder around pick 5 unless we get Green or reach for Robertson. So we may end up targeting best available even if they are an outside player, hydrid midfielder or ruck. And then target an inside midfielder with our second and third picks.

          I would not want to trade down too much. Fremantle's pick 10 might not be too bad. Because there is likely to be at least two of Serong, Ash, Kemp, Robertson, McAsey or Stephens still available to choose from.

          I would not mind Jackson if we think we will play two rucks. It would give him opportunity to get game time as a Forward/Ruck. Otherwise we would have a young WA player sitting in the reserves for two years like Darcy Cameron. I also like the idea of Young if Melbourne don't select him. A good attacking kicker like Dawson off wing or half back makes a difference.

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          • 707
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2009
            • 6204

            When thinking about pick swaps it's important to remember that our pick 5 will almost certainly be pick 6 and teens picks will have drifted at least two and possibly three with matched bids by GWS, Freo and Hawthorn.

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            • Melbourne_Blood
              Senior Player
              • May 2010
              • 3312

              Originally posted by Ludwig
              I'm warming to the idea of taking Luke Jackson if he's available at pick 5.

              Another idea worth considering is trading down, sending picks 5 and 44 for either:
              • Picks 14 and 17 - Geelong
              • Picks 12 and 18 -Port Adelaide


              I'm thinking that 2 players in the teens is worth more than who might be available at pick 5, Jackson being the exception as he brings something different and hard to find.

              It will be interesting if Jackson is still available at pick 5, because I think both GWS and Geelong would be very interested in securing that pick. So If we're not interested in Jackson, trading down could be beneficial.
              Can’t see us giving away our first top 5 pick in over ten years. We are obviously keen to use it considering it was off the table in the JD negotiations.


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              • Markwebbos
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2016
                • 7186

                Originally posted by SeanM
                I don't think there will be a pure inside midfielder around pick 5 unless we get Green or reach for Robertson. So we may end up targeting best available even if they are an outside player, hydrid midfielder or ruck. And then target an inside midfielder with our second and third picks.

                I would not want to trade down too much. Fremantle's pick 10 might not be too bad. Because there is likely to be at least two of Serong, Ash, Kemp, Robertson, McAsey or Stephens still available to choose from.

                I would not mind Jackson if we think we will play two rucks. It would give him opportunity to get game time as a Forward/Ruck. Otherwise we would have a young WA player sitting in the reserves for two years like Darcy Cameron. I also like the idea of Young if Melbourne don't select him. A good attacking kicker like Dawson off wing or half back makes a difference.
                I think this largely makes sense, particularly that one of Kemp, Serong etc would be around at Freo’s pick 10 and they’d love to be able to get another pick in before Liam Henry.

                But the club may also think it will get a better player at 5 (hence the Daniher shenanigans) and/or have a plan to trade up and down on the night (as it did with WCE for Blakey last year).

                Live trading makes it very hard to predict what might happen. And must increase recruiters workloads enormously!

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                • Ralph Dawg
                  Senior Player
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 1729

                  I'm not convinced that any of Stoddart, Ling or McInerney will come through to fill the "run and carry" role out defence. Ling has shown no sign of being able to fully shake his lower limb injuries, Stoddart looks uncertain at AFL level and McInerney still looks very raw.

                  If we can't get ourselves an inside midfielder we rate at 5, perhaps we should look at Lachie Ash. Good height and speed, might just be the guy to provide leg speed and drive out of defence. Imagine the scenario of Dawson with his laser left and Ash with speed cutting up the opposition.

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                  • bloodspirit
                    Clubman
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 4448

                    Good thoughts all. While I can see the appeal of trading down in the draft as you suggest, Ludwig, I don't think it will happen for the same reasons as you, Melbourne_Blood. I think we want to get a really rolled gold selection that we know is going to be a success, and hopefully a bit special, rather than anything a bit speculative. For this reason I can't really see us going for Kemp. I am optimistic we'll get good players with our other picks too, wherever they wind up. I'll be curious to see if we reach for anyone again this year (like with Rowbottom and McInerney last year). I think we'll draft a KPD at some stage.
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                    • dejavoodoo44
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 8494

                      Originally posted by troyjones2525
                      For those who love watching draft prospect footage leading up to and even after the draft (like me!), the draft prospect video's are now up on the AFL website!

                      Enjoy playing recruitment manager and dreaming of which next champion we should be selecting on draft night! Lol. Looking forward to hearing people's opinions after getting a look at some of these highlights!

                      AFL Draft Prospects - AFL.com.au

                      Sent from my SM-G977B using Tapatalk
                      Ta. I had a look at 8 or 9 of those highlight packages. The guy that impressed me most was Kysaiah Pickett. Such an array of silky smooth skills. Not sure if he's on our radar, as he's a Caleb Daniel sized forward, and we just added a couple of small forwards? But still, with skills like that, surely he would be worth our pick 32. And Draft Central reckon that with a bit of endurance work, he could be converted to an outside mid.

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                        I'm not convinced that any of Stoddart, Ling or McInerney will come through to fill the "run and carry" role out defence. Ling has shown no sign of being able to fully shake his lower limb injuries, Stoddart looks uncertain at AFL level and McInerney still looks very raw.

                        If we can't get ourselves an inside midfielder we rate at 5, perhaps we should look at Lachie Ash. Good height and speed, might just be the guy to provide leg speed and drive out of defence. Imagine the scenario of Dawson with his laser left and Ash with speed cutting up the opposition.
                        You may be right that none of our current running players are going to make it.

                        Such an intriguing draft this year.

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                        • bloodspirit
                          Clubman
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 4448

                          Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                          Ta. I had a look at 8 or 9 of those highlight packages. The guy that impressed me most was Kysaiah Pickett. Such an array of silky smooth skills. Not sure if he's on our radar, as he's a Caleb Daniel sized forward, and we just added a couple of small forwards? But still, with skills like that, surely he would be worth our pick 32. And Draft Central reckon that with a bit of endurance work, he could be converted to an outside mid.
                          Yeah, but it seems doubtful he'll last as long as pick 32. There's talk that he might bolt into the first round.
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                          • 707
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6204

                            Originally posted by bloodspirit
                            Yeah, but it seems doubtful he'll last as long as pick 32. There's talk that he might bolt into the first round.
                            Has been invited to the first round evening so he must be on at least one clubs radar in the late teens. You would have to think the two SA clubs would grab him somewhere in the 20s at the latest.

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                            • bloodspirit
                              Clubman
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 4448

                              He's been linked to the Dogs at pick 13, and could go even earlier according to some. Not sure he will though.
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                              • bloodspirit
                                Clubman
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 4448

                                Knightmare's updated phantom draft, expanded to 3 rounds: Updated AFL Phantom Draft The first three rounds. Has us taking Young at 6 (that seems like a win), Ralphsmith at 26, Taylor at 32 and Chirgwin at 43. Not so sure about these latter picks although they certainly have promise. We would be ignoring: Schoenberg, Dow, Taheny, Giorgiades, De Koning, Williams, Byrnes and Philp among others and we wouldn't have taken a KPD.
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