How Buddy joined the Sydney Swans

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  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 15961

    #31
    Originally posted by KSAS
    Part 3 doesn't work for me.
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    • barry
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 8499

      #32
      Originally posted by KSAS
      You're going to be disappointed, but you already knew that!

      Don't understand the GWS & AFL's accusations that we "stole" Buddy. They IMPLIED Buddy had agreed to and even signed with GWS, but failed to produce any verification or proof of that! Buddy clearly had his heart set on us from the outset & DEMANDED that kept secret from everyone on the outside till the end. Worked out better for GWS which they've admitted, as the fallout from our Buddy deal resulted them netting Mumford & Heath Shaw.
      Its kind of ironic that all parties won out of this deal.
      GWS were able to build a stronger team from the ground up without being seduced by the super star.
      Hawthorn went on to be successful without Buddy.
      And Sydney got the membership boost of buddies presence.

      On the downside.
      GWS never got the exposure it needed to lift its crowds/support quickly.
      Sydney never got a premiership out of Buddy.

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      • Meg
        Go Swannies!
        Site Admin
        • Aug 2011
        • 4828

        #33
        Originally posted by barry
        Its kind of ironic that all parties won out of this deal.
        And Buddy married Jesinta!

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        • KSAS
          Senior Player
          • Mar 2018
          • 1767

          #34
          Originally posted by ugg
          Part 3 doesn't work for me.
          Hi Ugg, does that mean Parts 1and 2 worked ok for you? If so, I double checked Part 3 and it opened ok for me (and others it seems). I noticed for me that I can only open 1 outline link at a time (i.e it wouldn't open Part 3 till i shutdown the Part 2 window). Hope that helps.

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          • ugg
            Can you feel it?
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 15961

            #35
            Originally posted by KSAS
            Hi Ugg, does that mean Parts 1and 2 worked ok for you? If so, I double checked Part 3 and it opened ok for me (and others it seems). I noticed for me that I can only open 1 outline link at a time (i.e it wouldn't open Part 3 till i shutdown the Part 2 window). Hope that helps.
            I opened Part 3 first, didn't work. Then opened Part 2 and it worked.

            Just tried again and now Part 3 works. The joys of technology!

            Thanks KSAS
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            • KSAS
              Senior Player
              • Mar 2018
              • 1767

              #36
              Originally posted by swansrob
              Outline never works for me...
              Hi swansrob, I'm no browser guru as Outline is the only way I know getting around some HS paywall articles. All I can suggest is try looking at your browser settings or using other browsers if possible. (I have no probs doing so using safari on my iPad or Google Chrome on my PC).

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              • rb4x
                Regular in the Side
                • Dec 2007
                • 968

                #37
                I find Outline only works if you reload it again after you have selected it. Not sure why.

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                • Hotpotato
                  Senior Player
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2261

                  #38
                  It’s an epic story to revisit, albeit not as good as winning a Granny.

                  The trump line:

                  “When you’ve got the chairman of the Commission (Fitzpatrick) barrelling the chairman of the Swans (Colless) and the CEO of the AFL (Demetriou) barrelling the CEO of the Swans (Ireland), it tells you how desperate they were to get him (Lance) at their new franchise club.”
                  Liam Pickering

                  Colless described these calls as “a torrent of abuse.”

                  Surely, there’s a great musical here. I mean it leaves any opera for dead.

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                  • KSAS
                    Senior Player
                    • Mar 2018
                    • 1767

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Hotpotato
                    “When you’ve got the chairman of the Commission (Fitzpatrick) barrelling the chairman of the Swans (Colless) and the CEO of the AFL (Demetriou) barrelling the CEO of the Swans (Ireland), it tells you how desperate they were to get him (Lance) at their new franchise club.”
                    Liam Pickering

                    Colless described these calls as “a torrent of abuse.
                    When it became official Buddy was coming to us, I recall Demetriou being asked if he was upset Buddy didn't go to GWS? He jocularly replied that he was happy Buddy was going to Sydney as it will further promote the game up there etc......lies lies lies except for the 2nd part of his answer!

                    This 3 part series further enhances to me just how angry and vindicative the AFL were towards us for getting Buddy. It's not the full story, maybe that will come out after Buddy retires as he seemed to have a few meetings with GWS and the AFL on his own, unlike the Swans were his manager Pickering was also present (that in itself said were Buddy was going).

                    To me, the AFL's scourge carried on to the 2016 GF with that orchestrated umpiring debacle which cost us the flag (wasn't required for 2014 GF as we didn't show up that day.....except for Bud!). The AFL were & still are hell bent that we don't win a flag whilst we have Buddy.

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                    • AnnieH
                      RWOs Black Sheep
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 11332

                      #40
                      Originally posted by barry
                      Its kind of ironic that all parties won out of this deal.
                      GWS were able to build a stronger team from the ground up without being seduced by the super star.
                      Hawthorn went on to be successful without Buddy.
                      And Sydney got the membership boost of buddies presence.

                      On the downside.
                      GWS never got the exposure it needed to lift its crowds/support quickly.
                      Sydney never got a premiership out of Buddy.
                      It's still early
                      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                      • barry
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 8499

                        #41
                        Originally posted by KSAS

                        To me, the AFL's scourge carried on to the 2016 GF with that orchestrated umpiring debacle which cost us the flag (wasn't required for 2014 GF as we didn't show up that day.....except for Bud!). The AFL were & still are hell bent that we don't win a flag whilst we have Buddy.
                        I dont believe the AFL directed the umpiring to be bad, but they certainly promoted the Cinderella story of the bulldogs which allowed their tactics to go unchallenged through the finals period.

                        The great irony is that they went after the swans, demonising them, and stripping them of cola and other benefits, which ended up being applied to GWS too, (The very club they were trying to nurture with the Buddy trade). GWS were hated south of the border, lost cola, and got similarly shafted by umpiring in the preliminary final against the next cinderella team: Richmond.

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                        • 0918330512
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 1654

                          #42
                          Does AFL Insider Trade News have any credibility? Another Buddy article linking him to 5 clubs with the Swans paying a chunk of his salary

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                          • chalbilto
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 1139

                            #43
                            Originally posted by 09183305
                            Does AFL Insider Trade News have any credibility? Another Buddy article linking him to 5 clubs with the Swans paying a chunk of his salary
                            How ridiculous. Why would the Swans off load Buddy to another club and still pay a chunk of his salary. Are these reporters in the land of the living? Why stop at Buddy, why not off load Heeney and also pay a chunk of his salary?

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                            • mcs
                              Travelling Swannie!!
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 8149

                              #44
                              Originally posted by 09183305
                              Does AFL Insider Trade News have any credibility? Another Buddy article linking him to 5 clubs with the Swans paying a chunk of his salary
                              Its all stemming from Tony 'I want to be relevant' Shaw's comments, but you do wonder if there is a little bit of testing the waters going on by the club.

                              Would be an enormous step to take though - unless of course Buddy has made it clear to the club he wants out... I don't see it (I'd argue even with the enormous salary he will command in the last few years, he will still pay for himself commercially even if his actual footy field output isn't what it once was). Seems exceptionally settled in Sydney as well.
                              "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                              • Doctor
                                Bay 29
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 2757

                                #45
                                I can't view the article unfortunately.
                                Today's a draft of your epitaph

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