#AFL Round 4 Swans vs Dees Thur 11-Apr at SCG #AFLSwansDees @sydneyswans

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  • Melbourne_Blood
    Senior Player
    • May 2010
    • 3312

    Originally posted by Nico
    Lloyd has the defensive skills of a feather duster. How he gets top Fantasy points is beyond me. Clearly they don't deduct for turnovers. Put him in the guts and make him work for his cheque.
    Yes. Put him in a wing . He is an accumulator, not a back pocket . When someone on here suggested he play on betts I nearly choked !


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    • stevoswan
      Veterans List
      • Sep 2014
      • 8573

      Originally posted by Merdo5555
      Agree we are far too nice, we should have challenged the ban and should be making much more of a fuss about the dreadful umpiring. Who cares if you get fined if you get results. Has worked wonders for the Hawks. We also lack a bit of mongrel in the team, all great teams have it we are way too nice.

      Biggest worry is most of our young players are going backwards.
      Accept Florent.....but he's just as likely to go missing next week. The whole team lacks consistency actually.....

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      • troyjones2525
        Swans Fanatic!
        • Mar 2008
        • 2908

        Originally posted by crackedactor
        Really not sure where this club is at. Worse kicking team in Comp. And probably worse team. Who in their right mind would recruit Thurlow and Clarke? McInerney selection was a disaster.

        They are both useless. Longmire fall on your sword and move on.


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        A mate of mine messaged me before the end of the game and said this: "You blokes skills are worse than the girls, I'm being seroius! its fffn that bad!" That's from a Carlton supporter and you know what? I had to agree with him! We have deplorable foot skills, absolutely horrible bar a small select few!

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        • Nico
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 11343

          MB. Lloyd has become a pretender. Creates nothing but wins the BF. spare me. I would think JL will start looking over his shoulder. This is totally unacceptable. Recruiting Clarke and Thurlow is Eade thinking. Clubs fall for recycled players too often. We have had good success but we have got it badly wrong this time.
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          • troyjones2525
            Swans Fanatic!
            • Mar 2008
            • 2908

            It would nice if we could just fast forward 2 years so we can play young Gulden and Campbell! They at least look like 2 young footballers that can actually use the ball when they gather it!

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            • waswan
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2015
              • 2047

              Surprise surprise we dont capitalise when we have ascendancy
              Skills disgraceful
              Midfield pathetic
              Make Hewett a mid, lose thw tag we dont have enough good mids to warrant a tagger
              Mills a waste with 15 possessions put in the middle
              Heeney forward or in the middle, dont talk about how he needs to be forward than play him as a floating defender for periods
              Ronke to NEAFL he is broken
              Blakey on the wing cant keep playing 5 possession games
              Mccartin to get Reids fwd time, cant kick straight waste of time forward

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              • Hotpotato
                Senior Player
                • Jun 2014
                • 2285

                They play like it’s netball.

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                • Bexl
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 817

                  Originally posted by Hotpotato
                  They play like it’s netball.
                  What do you mean

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                  • Legs Akimbo
                    Grand Poobah
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 2809

                    It's going to be a long year. A few points

                    1. McInerney should not have been picked. Good on him, but a real head scratcher. Feel for guys who bust their arse in the NEAFL and don't get rewarded. This has been going on for a while. I like the look of Blakey but he needs to play some reserves and get form and learn his craft
                    2. The balance of the team feels wrong. Can't really put a finger on it but feels like we dont have the right mix of talls and smalls / runners and inside players
                    3. When they promote players they need to play them in their best position not where there is a hole
                    4. We need to adjust to the new rules. Almost like we missed the AFL notification.
                    5. We have some players down on form - Hewitt is one. Another is Ronke and Mills has been ordinary but he missed a year of footy so guess that's understandable.
                    6. Our skills are sub-par. Our kick, handballing everything is below other teams.
                    7. I'm calling it - father time is catching the big Bud. He is slower, can't kick as far and his marking, never a strength, is now almost non-existent. Stop playing for frees mate.
                    8. I think we lack on field leadership

                    What to do?

                    1. Put your best team on the park each week
                    2. Make guys earn their spot and given them a spot when they earn it. Give them a run instead of dropping after one game.
                    3. Place a premium on skills at selection.
                    4. Get the team to move it faster. When we move it faster and straighter we look better
                    5. Teach Sam Reid to kick. Then Ronke. Then Papley. I'll stop here.
                    6. The club should be looking at its entire coaching panel this year and asking some hard questions, including of Horse.

                    Trying to be zen.
                    He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                    • Blood Fever
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4051

                      Originally posted by Nico
                      MB. Lloyd has become a pretender. Creates nothing but wins the BF. spare me. I would think JL will start looking over his shoulder. This is totally unacceptable. Recruiting Clarke and Thurlow is Eade thinking. Clubs fall for recycled players too often. We have had good success but we have got it badly wrong this time.
                      Should have put a space between them and us early in second quarter. Their midfield, fed by Gawn, killed us in third quarter. Our midfield appeared to run out of gas but we were still in the game deep in the last quarter. Skill errors killed us. Don't understand criticism of Allir. Committed one bad kicking turnover. Heeney and Lloyd were worse. Rampe was great as was Jones. Buddy had a lot of possessions but was just off with his kicking. Hewitt blanketed Brayshaw in the first half but faded. Gawn was the most effective player on the ground .Spoonfed their midfield to advantage. Absolute key to the Demons. Dawson needs to be persevered with. Mcinerney looked mainly overawed. Thurlow had a shocker but was ok last week. 5 day break looked to have an effect but who knows? We did seem to tire but it happens when you are chasing backsides after Gawn set up their mids.

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                      • stellation
                        scott names the planets
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 9723

                        Originally posted by U.S. Swan
                        3) Aliir Aliir...love his physicality but am ready to vomit every time he needs to kick the ball. Swans need to have someone nearby for him to handball to...
                        Originally posted by 09183305
                        Excepts his handballs are floaty and crap too
                        88.9% disposal efficiency tonight on an equal split of kicks and handballs, that's pretty good. I feel like he's aware of his abilities by foot and makes decisions accordingly.
                        I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                        We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                        • Foreign Legion
                          Senior Player
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 3379

                          Originally posted by Blood Fever
                          Should have put a space between them and us early in second quarter. Their midfield, fed by Gawn, killed us in third quarter. Our midfield appeared to run out of gas but we were still in the game deep in the last quarter. Skill errors killed us. Don't understand criticism of Allir. Committed one bad kicking turnover. Heeney and Lloyd were worse. Rampe was great as was Jones. Buddy had a lot of possessions but was just off with his kicking. Hewitt blanketed Brayshaw in the first half but faded. Gawn was the most effective player on the ground .Spoonfed their midfield to advantage. Absolute key to the Demons. Dawson needs to be persevered with. Mcinerney looked mainly overawed. Thurlow had a shocker but was ok last week. 5 day break looked to have an effect but who knows? We did seem to tire but it happens when you are chasing backsides after Gawn set up their mids.
                          Paragraphs.

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                          • Blood Fever
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 4051

                            Originally posted by Foreign Legion
                            Paragraphs.
                            That is a paragraph.

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                            • The Big Cat
                              On the veteran's list
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 2360

                              Originally posted by troyjones2525
                              Totally agree. We draft players to play contested swans footy but that style has been gone now for far too long! We need to draft in elite kicks! We have basically none!

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                              Elite kicking kids are gone by the time we get a pick.
                              Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                              • Foreign Legion
                                Senior Player
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 3379

                                You have discovered it then. Your thoughts were mostly cogent.

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