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  • The Big Cat
    On the veteran's list
    • Apr 2006
    • 2355

    #16
    Originally posted by Ludwig
    Inawson

    Out: Lloyd

    As was duly noted in the game thread, Jake Lloyd landed not even 1 tackle last week. Zero! It's just not good enough. I wouldn't even mind seeing Jake tackle Chelsea Roffe a couple of times a game. Just show me something. Let him go back to ressies where most of his league leading metres gained stats will come from jumping the boundary fence to retrieve the ball some idiot kicked into the parking lot.

    The simple problem is that Jake is just in possession of the ball way too much, and everyone knows it's pretty hard to tackle someone when your're holding the ball, unless you're tackling yourself, a feat only Tom Derickx was able to master.

    He's got it too easy. Just picks up the ball from the box behind the goal posts, stands in the goal square, looks left, looks right, looks into the stands, looks at the scoreboard, looks at the bench, checks his twitter account, and finally, when the umpire has had just about enough, blows his whistle and Jake runs out of the goals square, kicks the ball 20 metres and the umpire calls play on. He's so predictable. I'd like to see Zak Jones doing the kick-ins. Hard for oppo coaches to plan for his antics.

    Once Jake is out of the seniors, other players should see their disposal number go up, which will be a big confidence booster for the rest of the team and would probably lead us to a premiership this year if the AFL would only add a few more games to the schedule.


    Lloyd got the 8 votes in the coaches award.
    Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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    • stevoswan
      Veterans List
      • Sep 2014
      • 8555

      #17
      Originally posted by The Big Cat
      Lloyd got the 8 votes in the coaches award.
      This from the AFL "Team of the Week", which Lloyd is in.

      "....and Jake Lloyd did what he always does, racking up the football in Sydney's narrow loss to Fremantle."......but is he actually helping the team?

      Team of the Week, R18: Who makes the cut? - AFL.com.au

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      • Sandrevan
        Warming the Bench
        • May 2016
        • 355

        #18
        I would expect Dawson to come back in but who goes out. Stoddart is the most likely candidate but, like others, i want to see him get a run of games.

        Looking at the team stats from the Freo game other candidates are Florent, Hayward and McCartin. I'd like to see Menzel back in so i'm going for 2 changes

        outs: Florent, McCartin
        ins: Dawson, Menzel

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        • AnnieH
          RWOs Black Sheep
          • Aug 2006
          • 11332

          #19
          If you can't get the ball past the half-back line, what's the point of kicking it in? A lot of empty stats.
          May as well kick it to me.
          Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
          Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            #20
            If naismith is available, then surely he comes back in. Even if limited game time.

            We desperately need a ruckman.

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              #21
              Originally posted by AnnieH
              If you can't get the ball past the half-back line, what's the point of kicking it in? A lot of empty stats.
              May as well kick it to me.
              This is some sort of a myth. The Swans are the best team in the AFL scoring from play originating in their defensive zone. The Swans are obviously not doing so well scoring from stoppages and turnovers.

              Originally posted by barry
              If naismith is available, then surely he comes back in. Even if limited game time.

              We desperately need a ruckman.
              Naismith hasn't played in 2 years. You can't just bring him back to play AFL. He needs to be carefully managed. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't play senior football this year (something I predicted at the time of his injury). See NicNat as an example. I would also put Buddy on ice. It's getting to the point in the season where it hardly makes sense to play him, even if fully recovered. I would like to see both fit and ready to get in a full preseason than play now in meaningless games.

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              • rb4x
                Regular in the Side
                • Dec 2007
                • 968

                #22
                Knoll for McCartin and Dawson for Stoddart. Knoll has to come in now Sinclair is gone for the year. Rough on Stoddart but Dawson has to come back in. Naismith to play a managed half in the NEAFL.

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                • caj23
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 2462

                  #23
                  Originally posted by barry
                  If naismith is available, then surely he comes back in. Even if limited game time.

                  We desperately need a ruckman.
                  Are you one of our medical staff?

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                  • barry
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 8499

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Ludwig

                    Naismith hasn't played in 2 years. You can't just bring him back to play AFL. He needs to be carefully managed. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't play senior football this year (something I predicted at the time of his injury). See NicNat as an example. I would also put Buddy on ice. It's getting to the point in the season where it hardly makes sense to play him, even if fully recovered. I would like to see both fit and ready to get in a full preseason than play now in meaningless games.
                    I did say "if he's available". If so, he might as well play seniors as NEAFL.

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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      #25
                      Originally posted by barry
                      I did say "if he's available". If so, he might as well play seniors as NEAFL.
                      Or you could say "when he's available" if we are still talking about 2019. I would give the same reply. It's much easier to manage a player's time in NEAFL than the AFL. I think Naismith needs some time management when he does return.

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                      • 111431
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 697

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Ludwig
                        Or you could say "when he's available" if we are still talking about 2019. I would give the same reply. It's much easier to manage a player's time in NEAFL than the AFL. I think Naismith needs some time management when he does return.
                        I think we’ll soon recognise he is not the messiah!

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                        • Ludwig
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          #27
                          Originally posted by 111431
                          I think we’ll soon recognise he is not the messiah!
                          And what kind of messiah would he be anyway? Has to take a year off from doing the walk on water trick. He doesn't exude confidence that he can make cripples walk again, let alone get himself to walk again.

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                          • Beerman
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 823

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Ludwig
                            I'd like to see Zak Jones doing the kick-ins. Hard for oppo coaches to plan for his antics.
                            Pretty hard for the Sydney coaches to plan for them too.

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              #29
                              Compared to the rest of our Ruck stocks, Naismith is the Messiah.

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                              • caj23
                                Senior Player
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 2462

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Ludwig
                                Naismith hasn't played in 2 years. You can't just bring him back to play AFL. He needs to be carefully managed. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't play senior football this year (something I predicted at the time of his injury). See NicNat as an example. I would also put Buddy on ice. It's getting to the point in the season where it hardly makes sense to play him, even if fully recovered. I would like to see both fit and ready to get in a full preseason than play now in meaningless games.
                                Agree with everything you say, and yet I don't think any of us would be hugely surprised if he was named

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